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figueroa
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Yes, it works now and you are attracting interest.
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tld
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I just ran into the new default vulkan use flag today. There's a lot of talk here that seems to be linking this to the desktop profile which is NOT the case. That default got added for me and I'm using the default/linux/amd64/17.1 profile.
VERY annoying change in my view.
EDIT: Sorry. I was mistaken on that. On this machine that got pulled in due to other stuff that was enabled in mpv apparently, and not from any global change.
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sam_
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| Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| tld wrote: | I just ran into the new default vulkan use flag today. There's a lot of talk here that seems to be linking this to the desktop profile which is NOT the case. That default got added for me and I'm using the default/linux/amd64/17.1 profile.
VERY annoying change in my view.
EDIT: Sorry. I was mistaken on that. On this machine that got pulled in due to other stuff that was enabled in mpv apparently, and not from any global change.
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fwiw, we definitely wouldn't do this on non-desktop profiles. Glad you're sorted now in any case!
Moderator note: I have split some posts after this post and moved them into "Gentoo Forums Feedback" Split from USE="vulkan*" becomes default (ugh)] -- pietinger |
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GFCCAE6xF
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| figueroa wrote: | | With regard to my main desktop, that does not run a DE, or play games, I don't need or want vulkan. |
I think this has been addressed (I skipped most of this thread after here because it's hard to follow random noise but it is used for more than just DE/Games - my web browser and media player both use it and it performs very well. |
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dmpogo
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| GFCCAE6xF wrote: | | figueroa wrote: | | With regard to my main desktop, that does not run a DE, or play games, I don't need or want vulkan. |
I think this has been addressed (I skipped most of this thread after here because it's hard to follow random noise but it is used for more than just DE/Games - my web browser and media player both use it and it performs very well. |
How do you check that your browser uses it ? |
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GFCCAE6xF
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| dmpogo wrote: | | GFCCAE6xF wrote: | | figueroa wrote: | | With regard to my main desktop, that does not run a DE, or play games, I don't need or want vulkan. |
I think this has been addressed (I skipped most of this thread after here because it's hard to follow random noise but it is used for more than just DE/Games - my web browser and media player both use it and it performs very well. |
How do you check that your browser uses it ? |
It's reported as Enabled in chrome://gpu/. |
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mv
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| GFCCAE6xF wrote: | | dmpogo wrote: | | [How do you check that your browser uses it ? |
It's reported as Enabled in chrome://gpu/. |
What a disappointment for me: I get it report as disabled, although everything (except wine-vanilla) is (re)compiled with USE=vulkan, and | cat /proc/cpuinfo wrote: | vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 158
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8350K CPU @ 4.00GHz |
that is (IIUC) I have an intel skylake cpu which should fully support vulkan 1.2 according to wikipedia. Do I have to activate something in the kernel? |
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figueroa
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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My four binary chromium-based browsers all report vulkan as disabled. These are:
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ungoogled-chromium (AppImage)
Vivaldi
Brave (brave overlay) |
Best I can tell, not supported by my gpu;
| Code: | | VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Turks PRO [Radeon HD 7570] |
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logrusx
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I think this is chromium related. I've noticed vulkan being disabled for a while now and I have clear memories I could enable it some time ago.
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dmpogo
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| mv wrote: | | GFCCAE6xF wrote: | | dmpogo wrote: | | [How do you check that your browser uses it ? |
It's reported as Enabled in chrome://gpu/. |
What a disappointment for me: I get it report as disabled, although everything (except wine-vanilla) is (re)compiled with USE=vulkan, and | cat /proc/cpuinfo wrote: | vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 158
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8350K CPU @ 4.00GHz |
that is (IIUC) I have an intel skylake cpu which should fully support vulkan 1.2 according to wikipedia. Do I have to activate something in the kernel? |
Same here, my CPU is kabylake, GPU is intel HD620, also supposed to support Vulkan 1.2 |
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dmpogo
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| logrusx wrote: | I think this is chromium related. I've noticed vulkan being disabled for a while now and I have clear memories I could enable it some time ago.
Best Regards,
Georgi |
Indeed, if one goes to chrome://flags/ one can find vulkan flag and enable it. BTW, it is useful to install vulkan-tools, to see what is supported on your setup |
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logrusx
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| dmpogo wrote: | | logrusx wrote: | I think this is chromium related. I've noticed vulkan being disabled for a while now and I have clear memories I could enable it some time ago.
Best Regards,
Georgi |
Indeed, if one goes to chrome://flags/ one can find vulkan flag and enable it. BTW, it is useful to install vulkan-tools, to see what is supported on your setup |
Oh. For some time it wasn't there. I searched for it and didn't find it. Maybe there was some migration or something and they hid it for a while.
Best Regards,
Georgi |
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mv
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| dmpogo wrote: | | Indeed, if one goes to chrome://flags/ one can find vulkan flag and enable it. BTW, it is useful to install vulkan-tools, to see what is supported on your setup |
chrome://flags shows it as enabled, but nevertheless chrome://gpu shows that it is disabled. (I use only google-chrome-stable.)
I had also vulkan-tools installed and see no reasons with them why vulkan should not be supported at all. On another machine, they display a warning that on Broadwell it is only partially supported (indeed, according to Wikipedia only v1.1 is supported there), but as mentioned, this is another machine.
Edit: It works now if I start chrome in X11-mode (and I explicitly switch vulkan in chrome://flags from default to enabled - a combination which I apparently did not try before).
That's a pity: It seems that vulkan is not supported in wayland, at least in chrome. |
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logrusx
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| mv wrote: | | dmpogo wrote: | | Indeed, if one goes to chrome://flags/ one can find vulkan flag and enable it. BTW, it is useful to install vulkan-tools, to see what is supported on your setup |
chrome://flags shows it as enabled, but nevertheless chrome://gpu shows that it is disabled. (I use only google-chrome-stable.)
I had also vulkan-tools installed and see no reasons with them why vulkan should not be supported at all. On another machine, they display a warning that on Broadwell it is only partially supported (indeed, according to Wikipedia only v1.1 is supported there), but as mentioned, this is another machine.
Edit: It works now if I start chrome in X11-mode (and I explicitly switch vulkan in chrome://flags from default to enabled - a combination which I apparently did not try before).
That's a pity: It seems that vulkan is not supported in wayland, at least in chrome. |
For a while now I'm using ungoogled-chromium which should be no different than original chromium in that part, in Wayland mode with gtk4 enabled. It's supported in 113, but it has glitches and in the same time since it's a replacement for opengl, there should be no tangible difference in performance as opengl is enabled by default.
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dmpogo
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| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:14 am Post subject: Re: USE="vulkan*" becomes default (ugh) |
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| figueroa wrote: | | Noted that on my primary desktop that virtualbox depends on media-libs/vulkan-loader and media-libs/vulkan-loader depends on dev-util/vulkan-headers, but do not require USE="vulkan" |
Just noted this as well, virtualbox pulls vulkan if USE=opengl flag is enabled. I wonder now what virtualbox 7.x.x now does with opengl on hardware that does not support vulkan (but supports opengl) ? |
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figueroa
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| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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dmpogo - Thanks for that. It was easy. Added USE= -opengl for virtualbox, rebuild, then depclean away vulkan-loader and vulkan-tools.
VirtualBox still appears to work the same.
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dmpogo
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| Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| figueroa wrote: | dmpogo - Thanks for that. It was easy. Added USE= -opengl for virtualbox, rebuild, then depclean away vulkan-loader and vulkan-tools.
VirtualBox still appears to work the same. |
You should also be able to clean away vulkan-headers  |
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figueroa
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:33 am Post subject: |
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| dmpogo wrote: | | You should also be able to clean away vulkan-headers |
Yes, I did. I think, maybe, that I didn't have vulkan-tools. Sometimes I type the strangest things.
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