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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
Kernel: 6.6.8-gentoo-dist
DE: GNOME 45.2
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X (16) @ 5.573GHz
Memory: 3873MiB / 63501MiB


LTO enable

Code:
Sun Dec 24 15:03:59 2023 >>> www-client/firefox-121.0
       merge time: 19 minutes and 40 seconds.


Code:
Sun Dec 24 13:42:25 2023 >>> sys-devel/llvm-17.0.6
       merge time: 10 minutes and 49 seconds.


Code:
Sun Dec 24 13:26:41 2023 >>> net-libs/nodejs-20.9.0
       merge time: 8 minutes and 38 seconds.


Code:
Sun Dec 24 12:17:45 2023 >>> sys-devel/gcc-13.2.1_p20231216
       merge time: 17 minutes and 58 seconds.


Code:
Sun Dec 24 14:27:03 2023 >>> net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.42.4-r600
       merge time: 20 minutes and 7 seconds.


Code:
Sun Dec 24 13:18:01 2023 >>> dev-lang/rust-1.74.1
       merge time: 21 minutes and 27 seconds.


Code:
Sun Dec 24 14:41:34 2023 >>> sys-devel/clang-17.0.6
       merge time: 11 minutes and 43 seconds.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do you have running many other tasks when you do your emerge world ?


Sorry for the delay .. I really don't have any heavy processes running. I have plenty of ram (128g). I have not however built my own kernel, I use genkernel. In the early 2000's I was manually building for basic processing speed, not that important in today's world of computing. I suppose I should give it a try. My system has been so stable for the last few years since returning to Linux ... Gentoo!. I have forgotten more than I know. (The kernel could be the problem)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DavidF wrote:
Sorry for the delay .. [...]

Please dont worry. :D

DavidF wrote:
[...] I use genkernel. [...] (The kernel could be the problem)

Maybe. Maybe not. Do you use parallel compiling (EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS) or do you have a lower MAKEOPTS= (as said before I used =24)

If you want I could take a look to your kernel config (just use wgetpaste for this).

(Maybe you know this all already, but if not ... ;-) ... https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger/Tutorials/Optimize_compile_times )
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe. Maybe not. Do you use parallel compiling (EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS) or do you have a lower MAKE OPTS= (as said before I used =24)


I have MAKE OPTS= -j24 and I am not using EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS. I re-emerged gcc to make sure my upgrade from 12900k was represented. Firefox and Thunderbird are 40% to 50% faster with the 13900k.

Tue Jan 2 13:08:06 2024 >>> sys-devel/gcc-13.2.1_p20230826
merge time: 14 minutes and 25 seconds.

gcc is only about 20% faster. Temps can hit low 90's at times. Perhaps throttling.

When things slow down I need to better optimize my kernel.

Thanks for your involvement!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Virtualization: systemd-nspawn
Kernel: Linux 6.1.67-gentoo
Architecture: x86-64
Cpu i5-4590 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Mem 7,5G Swap 15G

custom no-multilib profile
COMMON_FLAGS="-mtune=intel -march=x86-64-v3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CPU_FLAGS_X86="aes avx avx2 f16c fma3 mmx mmxext pclmul popcnt rdrand sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3"

Buildserver for my laptop and steam deck

sys-devel/gcc: 33 minutes
sys-devel/llvm: 56 minutes
sys-devel/clang: 53 minutes
net-libs/webkit-gtk: 1 hour, 36 minutes
sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel: 1 hour, 8 minutes
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did an install on my HP Compaq 6710b. I went with Plasma and Wayland.
The official Gentoo binhost definitely helped, although many packages still had to be compiled.
I had to stick with -j1 for sys-devel/gcc, else the compilation would fail.

Code:
CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Duo T7300 (2) @ 2.00 GHz
RAM: 4GB

Code:
COMMON_FLAGS="-march=core2 -O2 -pipe"
CPU_FLAGS_X86="mmx mmxext sse sse2 sse3 ssse3"

Code:
$ eselect profile list | rg "\*"
[11]  default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd/merged-usr (stable) *

Code:
2024-01-13 17:27:11  6:37:21 sys-devel/gcc-13.2.1_p20230826
2024-01-14 15:27:43  1:54:29 kde-plasma/kwin-5.27.10-r2
2024-01-15 13:06:02  1:48:34 dev-python/PyQt5-5.15.10-r1
2024-01-14 17:20:21  1:14:29 kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.27.10-r1
2024-01-15 21:08:36  58:36 media-gfx/gimp-2.10.36
2024-01-13 19:11:18  49:26 media-libs/mesa-23.1.9
2024-01-15 14:33:21  32:15 dev-libs/botan-3.2.0-r1
2024-01-14 17:51:22  31:01 kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.27.10-r1
2024-01-14 11:39:03  30:15 media-libs/x265-3.5-r3
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going through its yearly update: Pentium-M 1.6GHz (1C1T Dothan, 32-bit only), 1.5GiB RAM, mechanical HDD, distcc (had to cut real low as it kept OOM'ing, so -lto -pgo)

2024-01-24T13:37:50 >>> sys-devel/gcc-13.2.1_p20240113-r1: 7:48:53 (should have been mostly self compiled)
2024-01-25T13:44:16 >>> dev-lang/rust-1.71.1: 9:41:18 (distcc'ed some of llvm)
2024-01-25T23:33:35 >>> dev-util/cbindgen-0.26.0: 0:40:34 (cannot distcc)
2024-01-26T00:21:00 >>> gnome-base/librsvg-2.56.3: 0:52:03 (cannot distcc)

It's still working on update... but a bit faster than my Atom N270.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that I am the one with the heavy iron, Ryzen 9 7950x

Just some of my make.conf opts
Code:
COMMON_FLAGS="-march=znver4 -O2 -pipe"
CPU_FLAGS_X86="aes avx avx2 avx512f avx512dq avx512cd avx512bw avx512vl avx512vbmi f16c fma3 mmx mmxext pclmul popcnt rdrand sha sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3"
MAKEOPTS="-j30"


build times
GCC
Code:
genlop -t gcc
 * sys-devel/gcc

     Sat Jan 20 22:58:49 2024 >>> sys-devel/gcc-13.2.1_p20230826
       merge time: 13 minutes and 7 seconds.

     Sat Jan 20 23:52:15 2024 >>> sys-devel/gcc-13.2.1_p20230826
       merge time: 13 minutes and 3 seconds.


Firefox
Code:
genlop -t firefox
 * www-client/firefox

     Tue Jan 23 14:52:45 2024 >>> www-client/firefox-115.6.0
       merge time: 7 minutes and 6 seconds.


qtwebenging
Code:
genlop -t qtwebengine
 * dev-qt/qtwebengine

     Sun Jan 21 05:20:13 2024 >>> dev-qt/qtwebengine-5.15.11_p20231120
       merge time: 22 minutes and 13 seconds.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crappy rust and llvm recently seemed to have started to do something that really kills computers with low memory, had to reduce -j down really low to finish where it had been fine before. -j had been nice because rust's llvm and llvm itself of course can be distcc'ed. But now not so much if the higher -j number runs out of memory during one lousy step...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eccerr0r wrote:
Crappy rust and llvm recently seemed to have started to do something that really kills computers with low memory, had to reduce -j down really low to finish where it had been fine before. -j had been nice because rust's llvm and llvm itself of course can be distcc'ed. But now not so much if the higher -j number runs out of memory during one lousy step...


My Laptop with -j4 und -j3 and 8GB-Ram run out-of-memory while compiling llvm-17.0.6. I do not use swap, so i configured zram, this worked good
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 1.5GiB computer (laptop) wishes it had 8GiB!
Using lots of swap didn't help... llvm-tblgen is awful.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

both systems are:
Ryzen 3700x
64 GB
/var/tmp/portage mounted on tmpfs with swap on SSD if it's necessary
driver: amd-pstate-epp
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
maximum transition latency: Cannot determine or is not supported.
hardware limits: 550 MHz - 4.43 GHz
available cpufreq governors: performance powersave
current policy: frequency should be within 550 MHz and 4.43 GHz.
The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use
within this range.

EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--verbose --jobs=16 --load-average=16.0 --with-bdeps=y --autounmask-keep-masks"
MAKEOPTS="-j16 -l16"
CCACHE_SIZE="100G" (on SSD)

with identical (or close to it) USE flags and packages installed, with alpha also being a lightly used server (web, email, ftp, backups).
Both running Mate/Xorg, with two browsers and thunderbird open

Updates happen daily and as my make settings show, are compiled in parallel with other packages that could affect build time, which ccache can also affect. Interestingly, with ccache, some extremely long builds, like ungoogled-chromium, can take 4 hours on 1 machine and 1 hour on the other machine, depending on what all happened to get saved and had a cache hit. ungoogled-chromium is a nightmare that I usually build by itself. Unfortunately, some websites don't want to work properly with anything but chrome, so I have to keep it around. The enshittification of the web, brought to you by google. Who needs standards when we can relive the Netscape/IE web of the 90s?

alpha:
Code:

     Sun Jan  7 00:35:00 2024 >>> dev-qt/qtwebengine-6.6.1
       merge time: 1 hour, 35 minutes and 44 seconds.

     Wed Jan 24 10:19:34 2024 >>> sys-devel/gcc-13.2.1_p20240113-r1
       merge time: 24 minutes and 46 seconds.

     Fri Jan  5 23:38:16 2024 >>> app-office/libreoffice-7.5.9.2
       merge time: 36 minutes and 36 seconds.

     Sat Jan 13 00:43:43 2024 >>> sys-devel/llvm-17.0.6
       merge time: 31 minutes and 17 seconds.

     Thu Jan 25 23:41:37 2024 >>> www-client/firefox-115.7.0
       merge time: 32 minutes and 39 seconds.


papilla:
Code:

     Sun Jan  7 00:40:54 2024 >>> dev-qt/qtwebengine-6.6.1
       merge time: 1 hour, 40 minutes and 25 seconds.

     Wed Jan 24 10:20:02 2024 >>> sys-devel/gcc-13.2.1_p20240113-r1
       merge time: 25 minutes and 20 seconds.

     Fri Jan  5 23:40:08 2024 >>> app-office/libreoffice-7.5.9.2
       merge time: 39 minutes and 1 second.

     Sat Jan 13 00:47:16 2024 >>> sys-devel/llvm-17.0.6
       merge time: 36 minutes and 35 seconds.

     Thu Jan 25 23:45:14 2024 >>> www-client/firefox-115.7.0
       merge time: 36 minutes and 14 seconds.


alpha:
Code:

     Fri Feb 10 02:10:26 2023 >>> www-client/ungoogled-chromium-110.0.5481.77_p1
       merge time: 3 hours, 15 minutes and 9 seconds.

     Fri Feb 17 09:03:44 2023 >>> www-client/ungoogled-chromium-110.0.5481.100_p1
       merge time: 1 hour, 13 minutes and 49 seconds.

     Wed Feb 22 03:58:12 2023 >>> www-client/ungoogled-chromium-110.0.5481.100_p1
       merge time: 2 hours, 46 minutes and 55 seconds.

     Sat Feb 10 03:00:11 2024 >>> www-client/ungoogled-chromium-121.0.6167.160_p1
       merge time: 4 hours, 13 minutes and 26 seconds.


papilla:
Code:

     Sat Oct  7 03:01:18 2023 >>> www-client/ungoogled-chromium-117.0.5938.149_p1
       merge time: 4 hours, 17 minutes and 22 seconds.

     Sun Oct  8 03:50:09 2023 >>> www-client/ungoogled-chromium-117.0.5938.149_p1
       merge time: 47 minutes and 15 seconds.

     Fri Oct 13 03:35:13 2023 >>> www-client/ungoogled-chromium-118.0.5993.70_p1
       merge time: 4 hours, 15 minutes and 19 seconds.

     Sat Feb 10 03:11:36 2024 >>> www-client/ungoogled-chromium-121.0.6167.160_p1
       merge time: 4 hours, 24 minutes and 52 seconds.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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     Tue Jan 23 09:50:39 2024 >>> sys-devel/gcc-13.2.1_p20240113-r1
       merge time: 24 minutes and 9 seconds.


Ryzen 9 7900X3D (24) @ 5.66 GHz
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
2024-01-16T22:55:30 >>> sys-devel/gcc-13.2.1_p20240113-r1: 14′46″


~arm64 vm guest on a MacBook Pro M1 Max using VMWare Fusion.


edit to add:

Code:
2024-02-12T00:24:33 >>> sys-devel/gcc-13.2.1_p20240113-r1: 16′09″


The same MacBook, but using UTM.
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