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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:23 am    Post subject: What is the "Admin CD?" Reply with quote

What is the Admin CD found on the main gentoo.org downloads page for amd64 and x86?
One screen down on this page just below the Minimal Install CD here: https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See bug #352152
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, thanks, I'd found that bug report. It's still a mystery. Somebody is keeping it up to date. Why?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep it around for my rescue cd. *shrugs*
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

figueroa wrote:
Yeah, thanks, I'd found that bug report. It's still a mystery. Somebody is keeping it up to date. Why?
What is the mystery? Seems like a good idea to have an install method with a more capable environment from which to work. I haven't gotten around to making a replacement for the previously Gentoo based "rescue" CD, so I'm guessing the Admin CD would work instead.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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figueroa wrote:
Yeah, thanks, I'd found that bug report. It's still a mystery. Somebody is keeping it up to date. Why?
What is the mystery? Seems like a good idea to have an install method with a more capable environment from which to work. I haven't gotten around to making a replacement for the previously Gentoo based "rescue" CD, so I'm guessing the Admin CD would work instead.

It's pretty lame to have a "more capable environment" with zero documentation regarding its capability or use. Why the secrecy? In my opinion, this just looks bad for Gentoo.

Just about any decent distribution's live-cd will make a lovely rescue environment, and some have been specifically cooked-up to serve that need. For example, here is an excellent one with some minimal but sufficient documentation. https://sourceforge.net/projects/mx-linux/files/Community_Respins/MX-Workbench/
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought there was some mention of it having more tools installed, but I cannot find it. I agree that it ought to at least have a comparably minimum mention here as does the minimal CD.

I'm fine with live environments existing, but I don't use them. Primarily I don't want to have to download unnecessary (for me) gigabytes of GUI and then deal with a painfully slow environment for the 5 minutes I'm in that environment.

While looking for a description of the admin CD, I did notice a "live-GUI", though I'm only guessing that it is a new iteration of the old LiveDVD.

And now that I'm thinking about it, I may be incorrectly recalling that the Admin CD was originally an internal tool, so perhaps that could be why it never got any documentation. As an example, see also: Catalyst.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch -- that live-gui at 4.9 GB must have the kitchen sink included.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Bootable_media wrote:
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Additional included packages can be seen in this diff:
http://ix.io/4CkS


ix.io is down. Please update. Thanks a lot.

In particular, I think ZFS is still not included in the minimal CD, it is only available in the Admin CD, isn't it? How about if the LiveGUI CD includes ZFS? I think we need a list of modules of each of them, so we can compare them.

Update: Sorry i overlooked. There is a nice list for LiveGUI ISO. It does not include ZFS.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a systemrescuecd spin with zfs, it's arch based now last I looked but meh.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

midnite wrote:
ix.io is down. Please update. Thanks a lot.
The wiki is a community effort, so anyone can create a wiki account and update the information. Including the versions of each ISO would probably be helpful as well, although I'm guessing they don't change significantly.
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