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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

borje2,

Code:
#INPUT_DEVICES="libinput"

Uncomment that line and emerge anything that is affected.
xorg-drivers anyway, as that provides libinput.

Quote:
when I startx I got 2 xterms and clock but no muse or keyboard

That's exactly as expected with libinput missing.

Code:
[   444.827] (II) LoadModule: "intel"
[   444.827] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so
[   444.857] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   444.857]    compiled for 1.21.1.13, module version = 2.99.917

Now you are using the Intel video driver. :)

Code:
[   446.180] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "libinput keyboard catchall"
[   446.180] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "keyboard-all"
[   446.180] (II) LoadModule: "libinput"
[   446.180] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module libinput
[   446.180] (EE) Failed to load module "libinput" (module does not exist, 0)

Is expected with INPUT_DEVICES commented out.

Fix make.config and update your system, Be sure that xorg-drivers will be rebuilt.
Then try again.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I will do that
I just now update after my change i world files

18 package

I let you know how when I done that

I am not sure I told you about black screen I have mouse and keyboard but no screen

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

borje2,

You are doing things that you are not telling us about.
That makes helping difficult as we cannot track the state of your system.

Before we do anything else, we need to make sure that startx, with twm, xterms and xclocx works with the mouse and keyboard.
Nothing else matters until that works.

That will put the foundations in place for the next step, as once startx, with twm, xterms and xclocx works with the mouse and keyboard, whatever is left is an SDDM problem.
We are not trying to fix SDDM yet. Only to provide all the pieces that every desktop needs, and to prove they work with a very simple window manager.
When that happens, we can put something more complex on top of the working foundations.

There is an English saying "More Haste, Less Speed" :)
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what I have done here is cleaning up in worldfile after Peters recommendation
after that I update with 18 package
after that I depclean took 45 package even twn xterm and xclock

I have install them again but startx did not show any xterms

this is from startx

https://bpa.st/YOWQ

and in /var/log/Xorg.0.log

https://bpa.st/64NQ

I am not sure if it is same or if it have update

hope this will help

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

borje2,

Code:
[    90.216] (II) LoadModule: "intel"
[    90.216] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module intel
[    90.216] (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0)
[    90.216] (EE) No drivers available.


xorg has be told to use the intel driver but its not there, so it failed.

Either provide the intel driver VIDEO_CARDS="intel" and rebuild, or don't tell Xorg to use the intel driver and it will fall back to modesetting.

twn xterm and xclock were installed with the --oneshot so that they could be --depcleaned later but not yet.
We need to see Xorg working completely first.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

borje2 wrote:
is this make.conf better?

Yes, it is better ... BEST is to delete these lines ;-)

Additionally to Neddy's suggestions:

Now as your video has worked when starting X.11 and only keyboard and mouse are missing, I have an idea:

Maybe you have a wrong /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-libinput.conf ...

I would like to see every file - list + content of file (I dont need the content of 10-quirks.conf) - you have in:

1) /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/

AND

2) /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I lost twm xclock and xterm with depclean

I have install them again but mv ~/.xinitrc ~/.xinitrc_saved fail

https://bpa.st/B4PA

I try to update without intel but it didnt work

It look like I have fuckit up

trying to emerge again

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if I have an ~/.xinitrc

where would I find it?

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter

https://bpa.st/W47A

https://bpa.st/MVPQ

I try to emerge without VIDEO_CARDS and that cause problem

I hope I can fix it

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this seems to take a long time

be back tomorrow

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

borje2 wrote:
I try to emerge without VIDEO_CARDS

Your attempts on the side only make it more difficult for us because we have no defined status of your installation ... but it is up to you to decide how you want to bring the system further into a broken state with your - not agreed - attempts. :evil:

borje2 wrote:
be back tomorrow

No problem ... I just remembered you had also "dwm" in your world-file ... I would still like to see if there are any remains ... the last thing I want is the output of:
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# ls -lR /etc/X11/


If you see something from "dwm" then Neddy shall decide how to deal with your installation.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S.: I also think there is no “sv” at all ... only “se” ... maybe therefore libinput cannot be loaded ... Neddy knows better than me.
Code:
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols # ls
af       ara  be    bw        cm       digital_vndr  epo       fo            gn       id    ir          keypad  la      lk              me  mv        no          pc  rs          shift      sun_vndr   tm     ua
al       at   bg    by        cn       dk            es        fr            gr       ie    is          kg      latam   lt              mk  my        nokia_vndr  ph  ru          si         sy         tr     us
altwin   au   bqn   ca        compose  dz            et        fujitsu_vndr  group    il    it          kh      latin   lv              ml  nbsp      np          pk  rupeesign   sk         terminate  trans  uz
am       az   br    capslock  ctrl     ee            eu        gb            hp_vndr  in    jolla_vndr  kpdl    level2  ma              mm  nec_vndr  nz          pl  se          sn         tg         tw     vn
ancient  ba   brai  cd        cz       eg            eurosign  ge            hr       inet  jp          kr      level3  macintosh_vndr  mn  ng        olpc        pt  sgi_vndr    sony_vndr  th         typo   xfree68_vndr
apl      bd   bt    ch        de       empty         fi        gh            hu       iq    ke          kz      level5  md              mt  nl        parens      ro  sharp_vndr  srvr_ctrl  tj         tz     za

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter

I believe se is the country and sv is the language

maybe I put wrong symbol in monitor config?

https://bpa.st/QRIQ

https://bpa.st/RATA

https://bpa.st/ERXQ


shall I change in xorg.conf?


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon

I believe I make more harm than good if I try something

so I will only do what you tell me too I don't know the function of the system

I am retired with a sick wife old car and a new house

http://0x0.st/XPJ-.txt

https://bpa.st/JBQQ

https://bpa.st/UBWA


so I just wait for instructions

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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could this be to some help?

http://0x0.st/XPJb.txt


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon

or maybe this if not the same

http://0x0.st/XPJB.txt


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think I missed some message try to clean up

https://bpa.st/LNLA

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter

I think I did not see some of your message sri

https://bpa.st/H6GA

https://bpa.st/GE7Q


https://bpa.st/5FRQ

https://bpa.st/TBOQ


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter
I think I miss this one also

https://bpa.st/RKFA

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

borje2 wrote:
Peter
I think I miss this one also

https://bpa.st/RKFA

/Borje

The 1st parameter in this command should be a "l" like long and not a "I" like Ignore.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

borje2,

I'm retired too. :)

Code:
# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-monitor.conf
Section   "Device"
   Identifier   "Xeon e3-1200"
   Driver      "intel"
   Option      "Monitor-VGA-0" "VGA screen"
EndSection


This says to use
Code:
Driver      "intel"
or fail. Its not useful.
Xorg lists several suitable video drivers near the top of the log, then tries them in order.

Code:
Section   "Monitor"
   Identifier   "VGA screen"
EndSection

This does nothing. Please delete
Code:
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-monitor.conf


Step 1 is to get Xorg to work just with its defaults.
The defaults use automatic hardware detection and run three xterms, xclock with twm.
They also give you a right handed mouse and a USA keyboard.
You need to
Code:
emerge xterms xclock twm
if they are not installed.

I don't use libinput. If you have any keyboard/keymap settings in xorg.conf or in xorg.conf.d/ comment them out for testing.

We want to make it work first, then we can build on what works. Thats step 2.

You must not have a an ~/.xinitrc as that can tell Xorg to do something else.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter

https://bpa.st/PPHA


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I did all that startx show 1 xterm no clock no mouse no keyboard

https://bpa.st/EVAA

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

borje2,

OK, that's progress in the right direction.

The video part of Xorg works.

The log you showed says
Code:
[ 28912.258] (II) LoadModule: "libinput"
[ 28912.258] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module libinput
[ 28912.258] (EE) Failed to load module "libinput" (module does not exist, 0)


Which suggests that libinput in sot installed.

Lets cheat a little ... what does
Code:
emerge -1av x11-drivers/xf86-input-libinput
tell?

If its [ N ] that means New, its not installed. If it says R, that a rebuild.
Let it build if it's not there then try startx again.

Do not --depclean
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

borje2,

1. you are missing the whole directory /etc/X11/xinit - this is your output:
Code:
# ls -lR /etc/X11
/etc/X11:
totalt 12
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 19 maj 20.38 Sessions
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1192 29 apr 15.33 chooser.sh
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   16 14 maj 13.30 startDM.sh -> /usr/bin/startDM
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 maj 08.11 xorg.conf.d

/etc/X11/Sessions:
totalt 4
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2187 29 apr 15.33 Xsession

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d:
totalt 8
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 152 20 maj 08.05 30-keyboard.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 166 19 maj 09.50 40-monitor.conf

I strongly suspect that you deleted it when Neddy told you to delete ~/.xinit ... but this is a file in your home directory ( this tilde ~ means: /home/peter for me: so completely /home/peter/.xinit ).

This is mine:
Code:
$ ls -lR /etc/X11/
/etc/X11/:
insgesamt 16
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1192 23. Mär 19:28 chooser.sh
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 28. Apr 2023  Sessions
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   16 23. Mär 18:53 startDM.sh -> /usr/bin/startDM
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 28. Apr 2023  xinit
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 18. Mai 2023  xorg.conf.d

/etc/X11/Sessions:
insgesamt 4
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2187 23. Mär 19:28 Xsession

/etc/X11/xinit:
insgesamt 12
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  888 23. Mär 19:28 xinitrc
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15. Mai 2023  xinitrc.d
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  143 23. Mär 19:28 xserverrc

/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d:
insgesamt 12
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 255 23. Mär 19:28 00-xhost
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 275 23. Mär 19:57 40-libcanberra-gtk-module
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 346 23. Mär 18:34 80-dbus

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d:
insgesamt 4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1455 28. Apr 2023  40-libinput.conf


2. Before some posts I asked:
Quote:
I would like to see every file - list + content of file (I dont need the content of 10-quirks.conf) - you have in:

1) /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[...]

and you gave us these two:
Code:
# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-monitor.conf
# cat /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-libinput.conf

Now I see you have additionally also: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/30-keyboard.conf

It's depressing when you try to help and new things keep popping up ... Just like you and Neddy, I'm already retired ... and I now recommend a complete reinstallation ... there are too many broken things in your system.
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