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FastTurtle Guru
Joined: 03 Sep 2002 Posts: 499 Location: Flakey Shake & Bake Caliornia, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:57 pm Post subject: I Must be a Masochist |
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This Microsoft Lab Rat has gotten tired of them moving the cheese with every update so I'm leaving the maze for Gentoo and while escaping, I may be able to bite one of those devs, drawing blood to show my displeasure in a manner they'll understand.
Lots of changes to Gentoo since the last time I used it and right now, it's annoying the frog out of me. Using the LiveUSB image, I was getting lots of I/O errors, indicating a hardware issue that had to be investigated immediately. Well seems something is wrong with the LiveUSB image and I've not taken the time to investigate it to solve it.
Next Portage decides to break after installing mirrorselect with an "unexpected end of file '=' " error about make.conf and the inability to emerge anything including webrync. Prior to that, it worked fine so I'm getting annoyed.
In looking into the issue, one solution would be to simply replace the make.conf file with one from the minimal install image if that's the problem. If it's not, then as I'm stuck with the inability to emerge anything, I'll simply extract the Stage3 tarball again and hopefully have it overwrite portage, which may fix the problem. Last but certainly not the slowest is to simply wipe the drives and restart the build again while avoiding mirrorselect if that was the issue. I only need a couple of mirrors as I've found that anything within my area offers some good speeds during downloads plus it's not an issue to enter the mirror by hand. _________________ AsRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4
128GB 3200 Mhz memory
1TB NVME as the boot disk
4x 4TB Sata - 2x 2TB Sata SSD - 4x 450GB SaS - 3x 900GB SaS - 72GB SaS for Gentoo system disk
LSI 9300-16i in HBA mode for all spinning disks
Radeon 6800 (Non XT) for GPU |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54577 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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FastTurtle,
Reinstalling never fixed anything, not even Windows.
Understand the problem, fix it and learn from it.
Gentoo does not have problems, only learning opportunities.
The difference is one of approach. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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FastTurtle Guru
Joined: 03 Sep 2002 Posts: 499 Location: Flakey Shake & Bake Caliornia, USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Neddy:
Sure, reinstalling may not fix a problem but it's a viable solution depending on how much time/effort is needed to identify a root cause.
What's most annoying is that the issue seems to have fixed itself as portage was working fine again. Not sure what the cause was as I had not replaced make.conf with one from the stage3 tarball as I was planning. Looks to either be a cache issue or Gremlins but as I can't devote the needd time to get the install working - hopefully, I'll have a minimum that can build the rest of it in a few days; If and only If I don't have any more issues. I do know that some of the issues are probably typo's and such. It's been a long time since I've had to pay attention to exactly what I was typing that I've gotten sloppy but that's one of the reasons I'm trying to switch back to Gentoo. MS keeps changing things on us and I don't have time/energy to learn every blasted month.
Example is the fact that they've removed more Control Panel Items from the system and didn't tell us where they placed them. Another is the recent announcement that you can uninstall OneDrive from a system but the instructions are as confusing as possible while not providing critical information on how to do it. That's MS for you.
Yes it's fun and worth while to learn as it helps stave off Dementia by keeping the brain excersised but my immunity to frustration has gotten far shorter then it used to be when I had plenty of time. _________________ AsRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4
128GB 3200 Mhz memory
1TB NVME as the boot disk
4x 4TB Sata - 2x 2TB Sata SSD - 4x 450GB SaS - 3x 900GB SaS - 72GB SaS for Gentoo system disk
LSI 9300-16i in HBA mode for all spinning disks
Radeon 6800 (Non XT) for GPU |
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XaetaCore n00b
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 Posts: 25 Location: The Netherlands
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Naib Watchman
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 6065 Location: Removed by Neddy
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: |
Reinstalling never fixed anything, not even Windows.
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I wish that was true... between the registry and WinSxS ... re-install is required because the problem is MS doesn't clean up after itself nor provides tool to really assist with it. _________________
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Leonardo.b Guru
Joined: 10 Oct 2020 Posts: 308
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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To fix any Windows issue, the best solution is always to re-install.
Just be careful to not re-install Windows... |
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mrbassie l33t
Joined: 31 May 2013 Posts: 821 Location: Go past the sign for cope, right at the sign for seethe. If you see the target you've missed it.
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Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Naib wrote: | NeddySeagoon wrote: |
Reinstalling never fixed anything, not even Windows.
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I wish that was true... between the registry and WinSxS ... re-install is required because the problem is MS doesn't clean up after itself nor provides tool to really assist with it. |
Yo! It's our man in pakistan!
Windows is ok if you fanny about with it enough. _________________ I spent a christmas in Vienna twenty something years ago. It was a beautiful city. Everyone was so friendly. |
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ChrisJumper Advocate
Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 2400 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hi FastTurtle,
have a backup of your home and important Data. Now you can insert this in every Linux Distribution you want. Just import the data and take care of Program Versions or exporting some like your emails to import them in another evoulution program.
Gentoo however is wow. But do not use USB for an install. I just would run any Live System you want, and set up a fresh Gentoo installation by using that Live System to install and wget a fresh Gentoo installation. Like: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64
This if you have booted some live System from an AMD64 cpu.
You have to click through the own chapters and i would suggest to read it first through to the end and start from the beginning if you like to try it.
Good luck! |
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John-Boy Guru
Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 446 Location: Desperately seeking moksha in all the wrong places
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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mrbassie wrote: | Windows is ok if you fanny about with it enough. |
As long as you don't get into a spot of bother with some virus that a reprobate has written, the little scamp. If that is so - nuke it. _________________ Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood" |
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mrbassie l33t
Joined: 31 May 2013 Posts: 821 Location: Go past the sign for cope, right at the sign for seethe. If you see the target you've missed it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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This thread is like a reunion.
Ahh the good old days.
I should have said windows can be made to be less shite if you fanny about with it.
Anyway, still in brum, still got sprouts? _________________ I spent a christmas in Vienna twenty something years ago. It was a beautiful city. Everyone was so friendly. |
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John-Boy Guru
Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 446 Location: Desperately seeking moksha in all the wrong places
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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I'm currently following the Taylor Swift tour around, have I got sprouts ? Yes the doc has given me something for it. _________________ Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood" |
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mrbassie l33t
Joined: 31 May 2013 Posts: 821 Location: Go past the sign for cope, right at the sign for seethe. If you see the target you've missed it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Freezer bags or tastebuds? _________________ I spent a christmas in Vienna twenty something years ago. It was a beautiful city. Everyone was so friendly. |
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John-Boy Guru
Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 446 Location: Desperately seeking moksha in all the wrong places
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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- Just popping my head around the door old chap _________________ Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood" |
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John-Boy Guru
Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 446 Location: Desperately seeking moksha in all the wrong places
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Naib wrote: | NeddySeagoon wrote: |
Reinstalling never fixed anything, not even Windows.
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nor provides tool to really assist with it. |
Fdisk is still accessible isn't it ? _________________ Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood" |
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mrbassie l33t
Joined: 31 May 2013 Posts: 821 Location: Go past the sign for cope, right at the sign for seethe. If you see the target you've missed it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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John-Boy wrote: | - Just popping my head around the door old chap |
Good to see an old face matey. _________________ I spent a christmas in Vienna twenty something years ago. It was a beautiful city. Everyone was so friendly. |
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