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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:34 pm    Post subject: Rebooting on its own Reply with quote

My Gentoo system has started rebooting on its own, frequently. There doesn't seem to be anything interesting in /var/log/messages. How should I look into this?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is summer now (at least in the northern hemisphere); your PC might just overheat, so check temperatures. Also, try to run LiveGUI USB to make sure it isn't your system's fault.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I moved the SSD to another system and the behavior is the same unfortunately. Both systems are quite cool to the touch.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like there might be a problem with the system or the SSD.
Cold to the touch might also mean overheating if there is a poor connection between a CPU and a heatsink, but since both machines are cool, it probably isn't.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This started happening after a fairly large emerge world update the other day so at this point I'm certain it's software. There must be some way to track it down? I would try a newer kernel but the system won't even stay up long enough to compile it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a "few times" similar issue when something broke after a system update, and I didn't know which package caused that. Run genlop -l and check what has been updated since the last time your system was working flawlessly, and mask them. Downgrade everything Portage wants. Now, make sure your system is stable, then start unmasking and updating packages and testing if your system is stable. After updating some packages, it might be necessary to reboot your machine.
This method always worked for me. If by change this "fairly large emerge world update" was emerge --emptytree @world after changing profile, I think it would be better to restore the system from backup and do emerge --emptytree @world a few packages at the time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did that recent large update include a new kernel? If so, start by dropping back to the kernel from before the update.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To make sure it is not a temperature thing: Try at least something like https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Lm_sensors and have a look at the temperatures
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still having this problem unfortunately.

I set up lm-sensors and everything is between 22C and 35C including the NVME sensor. Is there a bash one-liner that will dump 'sensors' to a file every 10 seconds so I can check the most recent readings after it reboots?

There must be a way to gather more info on why a system rebooted?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After more testing I think this may be due to a USB network adapter overheating and freezing/rebooting the system. Still testing...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried disabling power save mode on the USB adapter like this but it still reboots:
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echo "on" > "/sys/class/net/eth0/power/control"
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you check for loose connections or broken connectors?
What happens if you do not use the USB network adapter?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Rebooting on its own Reply with quote

grant123 wrote:
My Gentoo system has started rebooting on its own, frequently. There doesn't seem to be anything interesting in /var/log/messages. How should I look into this?


Is it a Gentoo-specific bug, or does it occur on every distrio or even Windows? I had a similar issue with Archlinux recently, and initially I thought it was an Arch issue. However, later it happened more and more frequently and I finally couldn't bear it anymore. I had a test environment Ubuntu installation on a portable HDD, and run stress tests from there. Eventually I found that this issue happened on every Linux distrio, even WSL, and even native Windows applications some times. If you don't have extra disc space, you can use a portable live image to rule out the possibility of a hardware issue.

BTW in my case the issue could be reproduced (randomly, not every time) by plugging and unplugging the charging cable repeatedly when the battery has less than half the charge and cpu is under stress.
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