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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 11:09 am    Post subject: DNS issue on new Gentooo machine Reply with quote

I Installed a fresh Gentoo system in my main machine. I've a dully issue with DNS. If i try to ping IP adress it's ok:
Code:

DESKTOP-giovanni ~ # ping -c 1 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=116 time=7.81 ms

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 7.811/7.811/7.811/0.000 ms


Also I can navigate normally with FireFox.
Instead if I ping website adress this is the result:
Code:

DESKTOP-giovanni ~ # ping -c 1 google.it
PING google.it (2a00:1450:4002:414::2003) 56 data bytes

--- google.it ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms


I already tried to edit the /etc/resolv.conf and make it immutable:
Code:

nameserver 8.8.8.8
nameserver 1.1.1.1


Code:

chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf


Than I reboot but nothing change.
I also tried to disable IPV6 on my modem but no result again.
Finally I tried to use my smartphone's HotSpot. With this connection all things work, but obviously I cannot use forever my HotSpot.
I've already search all possible things on the web but I didn't find anything...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: DNS issue on new Gentooo machine Reply with quote

Welcome to the forums.
Giovanni Scordilli wrote:
Code:
DESKTOP-giovanni ~ # ping -c 1 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=116 time=7.81 ms

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 7.811/7.811/7.811/0.000 ms
Also I can navigate normally with FireFox.
Instead if I ping website adress this is the result:
Code:
DESKTOP-giovanni ~ # ping -c 1 google.it
PING google.it (2a00:1450:4002:414::2003) 56 data bytes

--- google.it ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms
This looks to me like DNS worked properly. Why do you think you have a DNS problem? To me, this looks like an issue where you try to use IPv6, but IPv6 does not actually work.
Giovanni Scordilli wrote:
I already tried to edit the /etc/resolv.conf and make it immutable:
Code:
chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
Why did you do that? Both those changes look wrong to me. You should use the DNS servers provided by your DHCP server.

What happens if you try ping -c 1 -4 google.it? What error messages do you see for non-working connections? Does google.it ever respond to ICMP echo requests? Some systems ignore them.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:11 pm    Post subject: Re: DNS issue on new Gentooo machine Reply with quote

Hu wrote:
Welcome to the forums.
Giovanni Scordilli wrote:
Code:
DESKTOP-giovanni ~ # ping -c 1 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=116 time=7.81 ms

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 7.811/7.811/7.811/0.000 ms
Also I can navigate normally with FireFox.
Instead if I ping website adress this is the result:
Code:
DESKTOP-giovanni ~ # ping -c 1 google.it
PING google.it (2a00:1450:4002:414::2003) 56 data bytes

--- google.it ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms
This looks to me like DNS worked properly. Why do you think you have a DNS problem? To me, this looks like an issue where you try to use IPv6, but IPv6 does not actually work.
Giovanni Scordilli wrote:
I already tried to edit the /etc/resolv.conf and make it immutable:
Code:
chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
Why did you do that? Both those changes look wrong to me. You should use the DNS servers provided by your DHCP server.

What happens if you try ping -c 1 -4 google.it? What error messages do you see for non-working connections? Does google.it ever respond to ICMP echo requests? Some systems ignore them.


Thank you for the answer! (and sorry if my english isn't optimal)
I tried what you say and disable the immutable with:
Code:
 chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf

This is the output:
Code:

DESKTOP-giovanni /home/giovanni # ping -c 1 -4 google.it
PING google.it (216.58.204.131) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from par21s05-in-f3.1e100.net (216.58.204.131): icmp_seq=1 ttl=117 time=7.39 ms

--- google.it ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 7.390/7.390/7.390/0.000 ms


Actually it works but if i try to use emerge or other software they fail.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: DNS issue on new Gentooo machine Reply with quote

Giovanni Scordilli wrote:
Actually it works but if i try to use emerge or other software they fail.

Eh, you mentioned Firefox can open websites?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: DNS issue on new Gentooo machine Reply with quote

kimchi_sg wrote:
Giovanni Scordilli wrote:
Actually it works but if i try to use emerge or other software they fail.

Eh, you mentioned Firefox can open websites?


Yes, but other software like thunderbird and emerge no.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new results further support my suggestion, that IPv6 resolution is used, but that IPv6 connectivity is broken. Per Guidelines item #4, please show us a command that fails, and the full output it produces.

Firefox reimplements so much logic that it is a poor test in this case. My guess is some combination of it using DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH!) to a server that is not resolving IPv6 addresses or that Firefox has its own logic to recover from receiving unusable IPv6 addresses.

Alternately, change /etc/gai.conf to prefer IPv4 addresses.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hu wrote:
The new results further support my suggestion, that IPv6 resolution is used, but that IPv6 connectivity is broken. Per Guidelines item #4, please show us a command that fails, and the full output it produces.

Firefox reimplements so much logic that it is a poor test in this case. My guess is some combination of it using DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH!) to a server that is not resolving IPv6 addresses or that Firefox has its own logic to recover from receiving unusable IPv6 addresses.

Alternately, change /etc/gai.conf to prefer IPv4 addresses.


Thank you for the answer!
I retried to turn off IPv6 from my modem, and after reboot all things work properly!
Thank you so much for the help!!!
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