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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:55 am    Post subject: Troubles with Intel GPU on sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.10.* Reply with quote

I'm trying the sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.10 branch.
On headless machines, this seems to work fine.
On a Intel i7-11800H mini-PC desktop, the machine reboots violently from time to time (no panic message as far as I know) or slowly chokes and freezes. I am not 100% sure of the cause but I suspect the GPU, as this happened more often when I was running Steam games.

Did anybody have similar problems? What can I do to debug this issue?

cpuinfo & lspci :
model name : 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H @ 2.30GHz
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation TigerLake-H GT1 [UHD Graphics] (rev 01)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you suspect the GPU ? It could be anything, such as programs causing a memory leak, or a kernel problem. Since you are using the gentoo-sources, my first question would be how you have configured your kernel. So we would need your kernel .config file and all 3 files mentioned here:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger/Overview_of_System_Information
(Note the reference to wgetpaste).

On the other hand, you can also browse here yourself:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger/Experimental/Manual_Configuring_Current_Kernel
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does this happen with gentoo-kernel?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fkobi wrote:
Does this happen with gentoo-kernel?


I did not try it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the later answer. I'm now running 6.10.10 which seems more stable.
It includes fixes for AMD GPUs but not Intel AFAIK. Odd...

pietinger wrote:
Why do you suspect the GPU ?


Because I had several other issues:
severe GUI slow down while running a game (Civ6 if that matters), odd dmesg messages (that I did not copied unfortunately) ...

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Since you are using the gentoo-sources, my first question would be how you have configured your kernel. So we would need your kernel .config file and all 3 files mentioned here:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger/Overview_of_System_Information



emerge --info: https://bpa.st/AIODO

Why can't I upload the config files with wgetpaste?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm ... you have a nice and fast system .... but your swap partition is REALLY too big ... :lol:
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Why can't I upload the config files with wgetpaste?

Try another service:
Code:
$ wgetpaste -v --service 0x0 /usr/src/linux/.config
Your paste can be seen here: http://0x0.st/X3eU.txt

(my old config for my i9)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hmm ... you have a nice and fast system .... but your swap partition is REALLY too big ...


Actually during some experiments I had to add swap.
I'm looking for a simple way to limit RAM usage for some processes by the way (I mean resident, not virtual memory). I could not do it with ulimit, I have to use cgroups

.config for 6.10.7 http://0x0.st/X3ek.txt
.config for 6.10.10 http://0x0.st/X3en.txt


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see you have much experience with a kernel configuration, but I would change these:
Code:
1.
# CONFIG_X86_X2APIC is not set
2.
CONFIG_I2C_I801=m
3.
CONFIG_DRM_XE=m
4.
CONFIG_DRM_SIMPLEDRM=m
5.
CONFIG_FB=m
6.
CONFIG_FB_UVESA=m
CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA=m
CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA_I2C=y
CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA_BACKLIGHT=y
CONFIG_FB_RADEON=m
CONFIG_FB_RADEON_I2C=y
CONFIG_FB_RADEON_BACKLIGHT=y
7.
# CONFIG_INTEL_IOMMU_SCALABLE_MODE_DEFAULT_ON is not set

1. Enable it you have an i7-11800
2. This is the only one you need (you can disable the others)
3. Disable it
4. Disable it
5. You must enable it statically to get EFI-FB. See: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger/Experimental/Manual_Configuring_Current_Kernel#Framebuffer_Device_and_Console
6. Disable them (after you have enabled VESA and EFI)
7. Enable it
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pietinger wrote:
I see you have much experience with a kernel configuration, but I would change these:
Code:
1.
# CONFIG_X86_X2APIC is not set

7.
# CONFIG_INTEL_IOMMU_SCALABLE_MODE_DEFAULT_ON is not set

1. Enable it you have an i7-11800


Actually I should enable it on all my machines :-/
(at least 3 other where it is not enabled for whatever stupid reason)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vm666 wrote:
Sorry for the later answer. I'm now running 6.10.10 which seems more stable.


More stable but not entirely stable. The machine rebooted during the night.
$ uptime -s
2024-09-20 01:59:39

Nothing significant in the logs I'm afraid.
Code:

Sep 20 01:30:00 grillepain CROND[233439]: (root) CMD (/usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1)
Sep 20 01:30:00 grillepain CROND[233438]: (root) CMDEND (/usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1)
Sep 20 01:40:00 grillepain CROND[236093]: (root) CMD (/usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1)
Sep 20 01:40:00 grillepain CROND[236092]: (root) CMDEND (/usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1)
Sep 20 01:41:19 grillepain root[236471]: ACPI event unhandled: button/up UP 00000080 00000000 K
Sep 20 01:50:00 grillepain CROND[238862]: (root) CMD (/usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1)
Sep 20 01:50:00 grillepain CROND[238861]: (root) CMDEND (/usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1)
Sep 20 01:59:49 grillepain syslog-ng[2076]: syslog-ng starting up; version='4.6.0'
Sep 20 01:59:49 grillepain acpid[2107]: starting up with netlink and the input layer
Sep 20 01:59:49 grillepain acpid[2107]: 1 rule loaded
Sep 20 01:59:49 grillepain acpid[2107]: waiting for events: event logging is off
Sep 20 01:59:49 grillepain dhcpcd[2278]: dhcpcd-10.0.8 starting
Sep 20 01:59:49 grillepain dhcpcd[2284]: dev: loaded udev
Sep 20 01:59:49 grillepain dhcpcd[2284]: DUID 00:01:00:01:2c:c3:07:49:68:1d:ef:35:cd:59
Sep 20 01:59:49 grillepain kernel: 8021q: 802.1Q VLAN Support v1.8
Sep 20 01:59:49 grillepain dhcpcd[2284]: no interfaces have a carrier
Sep 20 01:59:49 grillepain kernel: Loading firmware: rtl_nic/rtl8168h-2.fw


Moderation note: Fixed code block formatting. -- Banana

EDIT: It crashed again, I was not in front of the machine unfortunately.
$ uptime -s
2024-09-20 13:59:30
$
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vm666 wrote:
Nothing significant in the logs I'm afraid.

A reboot without any error ... hmm ... what is that -> ?
vm666 wrote:
Code:
Sep 20 01:30:00 grillepain CROND[233439]: (root) CMD (/usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1)
Sep 20 01:30:00 grillepain CROND[233438]: (root) CMDEND (/usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1)

(maybe clear your crontab?)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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vm666 wrote:
Nothing significant in the logs I'm afraid.

A reboot without any error ... hmm ... what is that -> ?

Or there is an error but it is not saved on the file system.

Quote:
(maybe clear your crontab?)

I suspected that it could be triggered by some cron job, but they all look innocuous.

I had problems with scrub a while ago, but this is not that, I tried a full scrub and it worked fine.
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1165800-highlight-scrub+balance.html
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You said you think there is no kernel panic; are you sure ? Maybe it would make sense to go from 6 seconds to 0 (wait forever) to be sure ? ->
Code:
CONFIG_PANIC_TIMEOUT=6

(also make sure that there are no settings in sysctl.conf ... like a -1 which does immediately a reboot)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Or there is an error but it is not saved on the file system.


It could be that whatever triggers it happens at a very low level, have you checked if the firmware was updated when the kernel was updated?

Possibly a silly suggestion, but have you already verified that the machine is not simply overheating?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vm666,

have you seen this thread ? -> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1170943-highlight-.html

(Do you have the same installation?)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pietinger wrote:
vm666,
have you seen this thread ? -> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1170943-highlight-.html


I don't use KDE

I had another crash 2 days ago. Just before 2 pm. I have a cron job that starts at *:59
It just copies ~/Dropbox to a NFS share though rsync but I don't believe in a coincidence here. The job runs every hour and there are aoften new files, so it is not just the copy that triggers it.

Could I have an issue with the soft or hard lockups detection, or with my watchdog?

I disabled the NMI watchdog, just in case. I'm not sure I need it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I disabled the NMI watchdog, just in case. I'm not sure I need it.


It froze again during the night. The X11 GUI was frozen, the machine did not answer to ping, I could only reboot it.
How can I preserve the last kernel messages after a crash?

One detail:
After some investigation, I discovered that the iTCO_wdt watchdog did not work on this mini PC. I have another machine in the same situation.
AFAIK, iTCO_wdt works on all my other (old) machines.
If I understand correctly, iTCO_wdt is provided by the chipset and the motherboard manufacturer has to wire it correctly
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am pretty sure now that it only freezes when I am playing Civ6 through Steam. Maybe this is related to Proton (Steam version of Wine) and not the Intel GPU driver.
I could not make any progress to debug this :-(
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I cannot help here any further ... sorry (I have no experience with steam games) ... :(
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pietinger wrote:
I think I cannot help here any further ... sorry (I have no experience with steam games) ... :(


if the cause is the GPU driver, it must be some rarely used 3D function. I would be surprised if it were only used by Proton.
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