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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, at least theoretically, MT seems the most flexible. But none of them make it easy to find information.

As a hedge against buying something that wouldn't solve the problem I have, I thought about buying an AP that I would likely use, then connecting it to the device from my ISP. Except... how would I configure the AP if everyone thinks they need off-device management software. Keep in mind I've never dealt with an AP, only Cisco routers and switches, and the consumer grade all-in-one devices.

And because I'm often slow on days that end in 'y', it occurred to me that this is all about vendor lock-in. And while looking to see if I could find anything about Omada devices working with non-Omada devices, and vice-versa, I noticed in their controller comparison that they only provide some features in the cloud... seemingly all of which are based on data that originate on the devices you own. I can certainly see the hardware controllers being somewhat limited, but not the software version.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
So far, at least theoretically, MT seems the most flexible. But none of them make it easy to find information.

As a hedge against buying something that wouldn't solve the problem I have, I thought about buying an AP that I would likely use, then connecting it to the device from my ISP. Except... how would I configure the AP if everyone thinks they need off-device management software. Keep in mind I've never dealt with an AP, only Cisco routers and switches, and the consumer grade all-in-one devices.

And because I'm often slow on days that end in 'y', it occurred to me that this is all about vendor lock-in. And while looking to see if I could find anything about Omada devices working with non-Omada devices, and vice-versa, I noticed in their controller comparison that they only provide some features in the cloud... seemingly all of which are based on data that originate on the devices you own. I can certainly see the hardware controllers being somewhat limited, but not the software version.


The Omada stuff will work with almost anything, including standalone (connect your AP to your ISP's router, configure AP manually on the AP)... what you're buying into, is the ease of configuring everything in one place with the controller (any version), including upgrades (I don't need to configure every AP I buy, I just add it to the controller and the controller configures it according to my existing setup. Ditto when I swapped out my ER605 router at home for the ER7206.).

The free cloud controller works fine, they have a new paid version coming out. There aren't any limits with the local software/hardware controllers (other than the OC200 being underpowered for certain features).
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again. That's probably true of most.

I know what I would get if I went with MT, now I need to spend some time again with the TP-Link line. I believe I made some notes. And then maybe Zyxel again.

After that, it's do I prepare for maybe fibre, or do I buy a stop-gap, especially since I'd still like upgrade to a Zen system.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks again. That's probably true of most.

I know what I would get if I went with MT, now I need to spend some time again with the TP-Link line. I believe I made some notes. And then maybe Zyxel again.

After that, it's do I prepare for maybe fibre, or do I buy a stop-gap, especially since I'd still like upgrade to a Zen system.


The Omada 605/7206 routers handle up to gigabit... there's a newer model that does up to 2.5 gigabit. I know the 7206 supports SFP and I think the 605 does as well.

Once you break the all-in-one consumer paradigm, upgrades can be piecemeal (see the boombox vs the home stereo components situation 40 years ago).

I have my 7206s set to use cell data as an automatic failover option if my cable ISP goes down too...
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