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bytex n00b
Joined: 30 Jun 2024 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:04 am Post subject: Should I not switch from Arch to Gentoo w/ laptop hardware? |
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The lightness of the init software. Things like customization what draws me to Gentoo but Since I only have 240GB of NVMe as storage, I was a bit skeptical about the installation.
Does constantly installing software from source with a lot of R/Ws shorten the life of SSD? Should I use regular HDD instead as main storage?
is there a tool to make my own gentoo iso?
once I tried to install Gentoo base before. It was a bit complicated or I left it half-done because of urgency. Now I wanna work on my custom gentoo base ISO on VM first
this laptop's hardware tell me your opinions if gentoo is not suitable for me. What about disadvantages of using Gentoo compared to arch linux?
right now the file system is out of control, I will certainly do a new fresh install and I was just re-thinking of using Gentoo..
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[archlinux@net ~]$ neofetch
-` archlinux@net
.o+` -------------
`ooo/ OS: Arch Linux x86_64
`+oooo: Host: VivoBook_ASUSLaptop X509JB_X509J
`+oooooo: Kernel: 6.11.3-arch1-1
-+oooooo+: Uptime: 1 hour, 12 mins
`/:-:++oooo+: Packages: 1266 (pacman), 7 (flatpak)
`/++++/+++++++: Shell: bash 5.2.37
`/++++++++++++++: Resolution: 1366x768
`/+++ooooooooooooo/` WM: awesome
./ooosssso++osssssso+` Theme: Adwaita-dark [GTK2/3]
.oossssso-````/ossssss+` Icons: Tela-light [GTK2/3]
-osssssso. :ssssssso. Terminal: xterm
:osssssss/ osssso+++. CPU: Intel i5-1035G1 (8) @ 3.600GHz
/ossssssss/ +ssssooo/- GPU: Intel Iris Plus Graphics G1
`/ossssso+/:- -:/+osssso+- GPU: NVIDIA GeForce MX110
`+sso+:-` `.-/+oso: Memory: 2620MiB / 3723MiB
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Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1698 Location: Germany
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sMueggli Guru
Joined: 03 Sep 2022 Posts: 455
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Why do you fear that a SSD is dying too early? How do you calculate the lifetime of a SSD?
Every part of your laptop can fail at any time.
Gentoo allows you to work-around nearly every problem. Building Gentoo on your laptop will probably not be a lot of fun in the long term. |
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bytex n00b
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Alright thanks for links, this has only 4gb ram. it says portage can write to the RAM only (with tmpfs support) and never to ssd. would I be totally exempt from writes to the disk?
*Increase my RAM amount to 16gb and let Portage use some of it and the system use the rest.
*I'm not who uses a desktop environment anyway + Getting rid of system-d also reduce some of RAM usage.
In short, how much ram is relatievely good for when using with tmpfs? |
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bytex n00b
Joined: 30 Jun 2024 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:45 am Post subject: |
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sMueggli wrote: | Why do you fear that a SSD is dying too early? How do you calculate the lifetime of a SSD?
Every part of your laptop can fail at any time.
Gentoo allows you to work-around nearly every problem. Building Gentoo on your laptop will probably not be a lot of fun in the long term. |
i'm saying building from source instead of binary based system like Arch = more writes to the SSD
In theory, this is the case. In practice, people who have used this distro for a long time will know better.
from gentoo/SSD wiki page
Quote: | Slowing wear out
Each write operation performed on a NAND flash cell causes its wear. This fact limits the SSD lifespan. The cell endurance varies with used technology[6]. On the other hand, read operations are straightforward and do not cause cell wear.
A basic method increasing SSD lifespan is to uniformly distribute writes across all the blocks. This method is called wear leveling and is deployed via SSD firmware.
From system point of view, it is appropriate to generally reduce amount of writes. |
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Hu Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 22545
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:32 am Post subject: |
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A tmpfs will avoid unnecessarily writing intermediate results to disk, yes. The right size for a tmpfs is for it to be big enough for everything you want to put in it. If you make it smaller, you will be unable to use it for big builds, and those are the ones most likely to take long enough that their intermediate results spill to disk. If you use a lean system (no DE, minimal GUI), you can get by with a fairly small tmpfs. Making the tmpfs too big at mount time is harmless, as it only uses RAM for what is actually stored. However, if you make it too big and then try to fill it, you could run out of memory. |
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