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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have global -X. It worked for a while. Eventually some packages required X USE so I've been adding that to those few packages manually.

Also I completely agree to everything in what Anon-E-moose wrote. There's no point in convincing others of which is superior.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

logrusx wrote:
dmpogo wrote:

X-windows have a imaginative forward looking (and having survived 35 years) vision of interconnected computers displaying information on displays elsewhere


X-windows in that regard looks forward at problems that were present in the past - huge mainframes and remote terminals. However future took an unexpected turn. Nowadays everyone has a supercomputer in 90's terms in their pocket and a super mainframe at home/work. So, no. X-windows is not forward looking. At best tangential.

Today's reality is everyone has plenty of computing power locally and don't need to draw it from somewhere else. And even if one does, it's not the way it was foreseen in the 80's.

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Why then, why did I just apply for 280320 CPU hours again on HPC cluster ....:) Should have used my phone. And yes, I need to visualize the output. It is exactly the picture I had in the 80-s
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one said you should not do it. I only addressed the "forward-looking" part was looking sideways.

But in the next decade or so X11 support will be less and less common. No one want's to support and maintain something so archaic that large parts of it are never used by anything.

Also you seem to be under the influence of the illusion this is the only way to do it. No one stops you to live in the 80's. You'll just find it harder and harder.

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Georgi

p.s. if you were paying that with your own money I doubt you would do it.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

logrusx wrote:
Also you seem to be under the influence of the illusion this is the only way to do it.


A lots of "putting words to anothers mouth" here in this topic, I see.

This topic is marching towards the senseless endless debate realm.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zucca wrote:
logrusx wrote:
Also you seem to be under the influence of the illusion this is the only way to do it.


A lots of "putting words to anothers mouth" here in this topic, I see.

This topic is marching towards the senseless endless debate realm.


Same happens to me even unconditionally (people just straight assuming what I said instead of probing if that's so like me with "you seem to") yet I don't complain. If you're going to point it out, do so on all occasions please.

If it's worth switching, it depends on particular needs, not on false arguments which I see a lot in here.
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