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asturm
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| dmpogo wrote: | | I was shocked when the latest kspectacle came out with the dependence on opecv (1.5 Gb library which take good part of an hour to compile on a laptop) with additional numpy dependence. |
Not quite.
| Code: | * media-libs/opencv-4.9.0-r2
Total files : 1056
Total size : 62.38 MiB |
You are a Gentoo user, right?
But still, you're citing an application, when this thread was about library usage. |
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Zucca
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| Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| asturm wrote: | and recommend ye big old monolith library dependent KDE-3 offspring.
"Old" is not the same as minimal, is not the same as lightweight or fast. |
| Zucca wrote: | | So I would guess it's quite lightweight to run on modern machines. |
It was only my guess. A wild throw, if you will.
Best way to know would be to install it and try it out for some time. Then decide if it's lightweight enough for ones needs.
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pingtoo
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| Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Understood OP does not want "wayland" But,
Just want to check in case the X version search is fruitless and there is actually a "better" minimalism wayland setup, Is such thing exist? |
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asturm
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| Of course they exist, but at this point you should reconsider where you are. Going on that tangent will not be well received by the OP. There may be a better existing thread but let me just refer you (and other readers) to https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1132167.html |
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pingtoo
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| asturm wrote: | | Of course they exist, but at this point you should reconsider where you are. Going on that tangent will not be well received by the OP. There may be a better existing thread but let me just refer you (and other readers) to https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1132167.html |
Thanks that is good link to start. |
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CaptainBlood
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TL;DR
gui-wm/labwc seems one of the lightest WM, wayland however.
Recently read somewhere gui-wm/labwc is the Fedora current desktop base, iirc.
Thks 4 ur attention, interest & support.
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Not an alternative, but regarding the LXQt upstream decisions on the topic, here's one of the several issues created about it:
https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/2579
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pa4wdh
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Thanks for the good discussions here.
Indeed, wayland is not an option here. I need X11 for it's network transparency which i need for a PC that doesn't have video output.
Regarding the discussion on the LXQt issue, in the end the change didn't make it into the code. So far they are confirming that looking for an alternative is the right way to go for me.
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Anon-E-moose
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| pa4wdh wrote: | | Indeed, wayland is not an option here. I need X11 for it's network transparency |
What do you mean by network transparency?
How are you using network connectivity, vnc, rdp, ssh?
I'm not trying to change your mind, just wanting more info.
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dmpogo
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| Anon-E-moose wrote: | | pa4wdh wrote: | | Indeed, wayland is not an option here. I need X11 for it's network transparency |
What do you mean by network transparency?
How are you using network connectivity, vnc, rdp, ssh?
I'm not trying to change your mind, just wanting more info. |
What do you mean ? Obviously X11 display forwarding, when you run a program on one machine but the result is displayed on another is meant here. |
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| dmpogo wrote: | | Anon-E-moose wrote: | | pa4wdh wrote: | | Indeed, wayland is not an option here. I need X11 for it's network transparency |
What do you mean by network transparency?
How are you using network connectivity, vnc, rdp, ssh?
I'm not trying to change your mind, just wanting more info. |
What do you mean ? Obviously X11 display forwarding, when you run a program on one machine but the result is displayed on another is meant here. |
I don't believe I was asking you, as you are only making a guess about his end.
Edit to add: display forwarding doesn't really have anything to do with network transparency, rdp, vnc, etc all shove bits around.
DISPLAY=IP:port and having it connect is network transparency, beyond that it's simply pushing bits at which native X sucks big time.
Which is why things like ssh utilizing the X protocol came about, adding compression in the process.
Local network is fine for X, global networking has it's share of problems, unless you have a fast dedicated pipe to wherever you are trying to connect to.
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