rust-bin now default if rust not explicitly in @world?

[eccerr0r]

I recently updated a machine and curiously rust was depcleaned. Only rust-bin was left...

Was this a recent decision by default for portage to no longer use source based builds of rust?
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[pjp]

Possibly related is this post by Ionen.
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[eccerr0r]

Yeah that indeed seems to be what's happening. So how do I chalk up to someone who noticed and...

actually I'm not entirely sure whether I should continue to build rust or not. Then again should I be also building gcc or clang/llvm for that matter and look for binaries? No...

I think I will have to continue to build rust on some of my machines just because. Maybe some of them I should opt to go with the flow.
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[pjp]

Personally I don't gain much from building, so I'd theoretically be fine with 100% Gentoo binaries. Except that I avoid Gnome, KDE and Qt (and some other miscellaneous nuisance items). rust exists on my system only as an unavoidable dependency, so -bin or a Gentoo binary is a quality of life improvement.
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[Anon-E-moose]

My rule of thumb for things like rust-bin, is based on how much will I use it.
If I only use it for one or two packages, or any package that's only going to be compiled in a 1/2 year or later time frame, I would go for the binary.
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[eccerr0r]

I don't understand from what you two are saying, I technically don't gain anything from building clang or gcc, either, and they might well be binary packages. Granted clang/gcc are used more often, but still usually all in one setting -- an emerge cycle.

(Then again, more and more packages are starting to depend on rust... Currently firefox mesa librsvg dev-python/cryptography and anything depending on bindgen/cbindgen are my rusters.)

I'd still expect it to default to whatever one already has on the system and not suddenly change, that's my take on it at the moment.
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[Anon-E-moose]

I don't build clang either, unless something forces me too.

I do compile gcc, but not that often (and for a long time binaries weren't available), it'll be at least 6 months or so till I upgrade gcc and I may go binary.

[pjp]

[Anon-E-moose]

One other point, in favor of binaries, the performance differences between a tweaked build and a pre-built binary are not that much anymore.
In other words, IMO, binaries are suitable for use 90% of the time (and I think I'm being conservative at that)

Binaries are useful on older slower machines (if use flags allow, ie. sse, etc) or where users don't have a high powered build machine.

ETA: Pre-built binaries are less useful to me (I'm talking about gentoo binary repo) as like pjp I'm on an older profile.
And I've basically soft-forked gentoo (for my use) so the binary repo doesn't work for me, but rust-bin does.
The worst package to build (for me) is qtwebengine (but at that I'm only looking at just over an hour compile), so not that big a deal.
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[eccerr0r]

Sigh. I still have a 17.0 box I need to upgrade to 23 with the 17.1 upgrade in the middle.
Thinking I should just bite the bullet.
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