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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:27 pm    Post subject: Stuck at mirrorselect Reply with quote

Hi,
I'm following the handbook to install, but I didn't get very far...
I'm getting a lot of locale messages, could that be it? I was thinking there would be a step to set that up later in the handbook.

Most of it is pretty greek to me but this one sticks out. Not sure what to do about it, though:
/usr/lib/portage/python3.12/phase-helpers.sh: line 638: ./configure: cannot execute: required file not found
Any pointers welcome!

Code:
(chroot) delta-gorno / # emerge --ask --verbose --oneshot app-portage/mirrorselect
setlocale: unsupported locale setting
setlocale: unsupported locale setting

 * IMPORTANT: 17 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
 * Use eselect news read to view new items.


These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
Dependency resolution took 0.89 s (backtrack: 0/20).

[ebuild  N     ] dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307:0/15::gentoo  USE="nls unicode -examples -minimal -verify-sig" 0 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] app-portage/mirrorselect-2.5.0::gentoo  USE="-test" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_12 -python3_10 -python3_11 -python3_13" 0 KiB

Total: 2 packages (2 new), Size of downloads: 0 KiB

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] yes

>>> Verifying ebuild manifests

>>> Emerging (1 of 2) dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307::gentoo
 * Fetching files in the background.
 * To view fetch progress, run in another terminal:
 * tail -f /var/log/emerge-fetch.log
 * dialog-1.3-20240307.tgz BLAKE2B SHA512 size ;-) ...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       [ ok ]
/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/temp/environment: line 92: warning: setlocale: LC_NUMERIC: cannot change locale (nb_NO.UTF-8): No such file or directory
/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/temp/environment: line 95: warning: setlocale: LC_TIME: cannot change locale (nb_NO.UTF-8): No such file or directory
>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Unpacking dialog-1.3-20240307.tgz to /var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/work
>>> Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/work
/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/temp/environment: line 92: warning: setlocale: LC_NUMERIC: cannot change locale (nb_NO.UTF-8): No such file or directory
/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/temp/environment: line 95: warning: setlocale: LC_TIME: cannot change locale (nb_NO.UTF-8): No such file or directory
>>> Preparing source in /var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/work/dialog-1.3-20240307 ...
>>> Source prepared.
/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/temp/environment: line 92: warning: setlocale: LC_NUMERIC: cannot change locale (nb_NO.UTF-8): No such file or directory
/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/temp/environment: line 95: warning: setlocale: LC_TIME: cannot change locale (nb_NO.UTF-8): No such file or directory
>>> Configuring source in /var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/work/dialog-1.3-20240307 ...
 * econf: updating dialog-1.3-20240307/config.guess with /usr/share/gnuconfig/config.guess
 * econf: updating dialog-1.3-20240307/config.sub with /usr/share/gnuconfig/config.sub
./configure --prefix=/usr --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --libdir=/usr/lib64 --disable-rpath-hack --with-pkg-config --enable-pc-files --enable-nls --with-libtool --with-libtool-opts=-shared --with-ncursesw
/usr/lib/portage/python3.12/phase-helpers.sh: line 638: ./configure: cannot execute: required file not found
 * ERROR: dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307::gentoo failed (configure phase):
 *   econf failed
 *
 * Call stack:
 *               ebuild.sh, line 136:  Called src_configure
 *             environment, line 593:  Called econf '--disable-rpath-hack' '--with-pkg-config' '--enable-pc-files' '--enable-nls' '--with-libtool' '--with-libtool-opts=-shared' '--with-ncursesw'
 *        phase-helpers.sh, line 647:  Called __helpers_die 'econf failed'
 *   isolated-functions.sh, line 112:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *              die "$@"
 *
 * If you need support, post the output of `emerge --info '=dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307::gentoo'`,
 * the complete build log and the output of `emerge -pqv '=dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307::gentoo'`.
 * The complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/temp/environment'.
 * Working directory: '/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/work/dialog-1.3-20240307'
 * S: '/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/work/dialog-1.3-20240307'
/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/temp/environment: line 92: warning: setlocale: LC_NUMERIC: cannot change locale (nb_NO.UTF-8): No such file or directory
/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/temp/environment: line 95: warning: setlocale: LC_TIME: cannot change locale (nb_NO.UTF-8): No such file or directory

>>> Failed to emerge dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307, Log file:

>>>  '/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/temp/build.log'

 * Messages for package dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307:

 * ERROR: dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307::gentoo failed (configure phase):
 *   econf failed
 *
 * Call stack:
 *               ebuild.sh, line 136:  Called src_configure
 *             environment, line 593:  Called econf '--disable-rpath-hack' '--with-pkg-config' '--enable-pc-files' '--enable-nls' '--with-libtool' '--with-libtool-opts=-shared' '--with-ncursesw'
 *        phase-helpers.sh, line 647:  Called __helpers_die 'econf failed'
 *   isolated-functions.sh, line 112:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *              die "$@"
 *
 * If you need support, post the output of `emerge --info '=dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307::gentoo'`,
 * the complete build log and the output of `emerge -pqv '=dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307::gentoo'`.
 * The complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/temp/environment'.
 * Working directory: '/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/work/dialog-1.3-20240307'
 * S: '/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.3.20240307/work/dialog-1.3-20240307'
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the locale stuff, it looks like you forgot to run locale-gen.
As for the mirrorselect, I've never touched it. I just pick a mirror manually.
https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/mirrors/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bstaletic wrote:
For the locale stuff, it looks like you forgot to run locale-gen.
As for the mirrorselect, I've never touched it. I just pick a mirror manually.
https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/mirrors/

I skipped ahead and did locale-gen, but it didn't help. Also the error is not only on mirrorselect, I also get the same error when trying to install vim.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mariusse,

Welcome to Gentoo.

Running mirrorselect during the install is optional.
If you skip that step, the install will use the default USA mirror rotation. If you are not in the USA, it may be suboptimal but it works.
Come back to mirrorselect later.

Do you have
Code:
eselect locale
yet?

Code:
$ eselect locale
Usage: eselect locale <action> <options>

Standard actions:
  help                      Display help text
  usage                     Display usage information
  version                   Display version information

Extra actions:
  list                      List available targets for the LANG variable
  set <target>              Set the LANG variable in profile
    target                    Target name or number (from 'list' action)
  show                      Show value of the LANG variable in profile
roy@neddy_static ~ $ eselect locale list
Available targets for the LANG variable:
  [1]   C
  [2]   C.utf8
  [3]   en_GB
  [4]   en_GB.iso88591
  [5]   en_GB.utf8 *
  [6]   en_US
  [7]   en_US.iso88591
  [8]   en_US.utf8
  [9]   POSIX
  [ ]   (free form)

Use it to list and choose an available locale.

-- edit --
Code:
/usr/lib/portage/python3.12/phase-helpers.sh: line 638: ./configure: cannot execute: required file not found


Your
Code:
emerge --info
output may help with that.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hadn't gotten that far yet, but I skipped ahead and did locale-gen and also selected a locale with eselect so it looks like this:
Code:
(chroot) delta-gorno / # eselect locale list
Available targets for the LANG variable:
  [1]   C
  [2]   C.utf8
  [3]   POSIX
  [4]   en_US.utf8 *
  [ ]   (free form)
(chroot) delta-gorno / #


Makes no difference on the error, though. Even the locale errors are still there when trying to emerge...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you missed Neddy's edit. Show us the output of emerge --info.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bstaletic wrote:
I think you missed Neddy's edit. Show us the output of emerge --info.

Good guess :D

Code:

(chroot) delta-gorno / # emerge --info
setlocale: unsupported locale setting
setlocale: unsupported locale setting
Portage 3.0.66.1 (python 3.12.8-final-0, default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop, gcc-14, glibc-2.40-r5, 6.6.67 x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-6.6.67-x86_64-AMD_Ryzen_7_3700X_8-Core_Processor-with-glibc2.40
KiB Mem:    16295048 total,   3865084 free
KiB Swap:   17924596 total,  16136180 free
Timestamp of repository gentoo: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:45:00 +0000
Head commit of repository gentoo: fa1e14f1090789e1e5304fccf4beafa8384edf94
sh bash 5.2_p37
ld GNU ld (Gentoo 2.43 p3) 2.43.1
app-misc/pax-utils:        1.3.8::gentoo
app-shells/bash:           5.2_p37::gentoo
dev-build/autoconf:        2.72-r1::gentoo
dev-build/automake:        1.16.5-r2::gentoo
dev-build/cmake:           3.30.6::gentoo
dev-build/libtool:         2.4.7-r4::gentoo
dev-build/make:            4.4.1-r100::gentoo
dev-build/meson:           1.5.2::gentoo
dev-lang/perl:             5.40.0::gentoo
dev-lang/python:           3.12.8::gentoo, 3.13.1::gentoo
dev-lang/rust-bin:         1.82.0-r101::gentoo
llvm-core/clang:           18.1.8-r6::gentoo
llvm-core/llvm:            18.1.8-r6::gentoo, 19.1.4::gentoo
sys-apps/baselayout:       2.17::gentoo
sys-apps/openrc:           0.55.1::gentoo
sys-apps/sandbox:          2.39::gentoo
sys-devel/binutils:        2.43-r2::gentoo
sys-devel/binutils-config: 5.5.2::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc:             14.2.1_p20241221::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc-config:      2.11::gentoo
sys-kernel/linux-headers:  6.6-r1::gentoo (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc:            2.40-r5::gentoo
Repositories:

gentoo
    location: /var/db/repos/gentoo
    sync-type: rsync
    sync-uri: rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
    priority: -1000
    volatile: False
    sync-rsync-verify-metamanifest: yes
    sync-rsync-verify-jobs: 1
    sync-rsync-verify-max-age: 3
    sync-rsync-extra-opts:

Binary Repositories:

gentoobinhost
    priority: 1
    sync-uri: https://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/binpackages/23.0/x86-64

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
ACCEPT_LICENSE="@FREE"
AR="ar"
AS="as"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CC="gcc"
CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/config /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/dconf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/sandbox.d"
CONFIG_SHELL="/nix/store/p6k7xp1lsfmbdd731mlglrdj2d66mr82-bash-5.2p37/bin/bash"
CXX="g++"
CXXFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/var/cache/distfiles"
ENV_UNSET="CARGO_HOME DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS DISPLAY GDK_PIXBUF_MODULE_FILE GOBIN GOPATH PERL5LIB PERL5OPT PERLPREFIX PERL_CORE PERL_MB_OPT PERL_MM_OPT XAUTHORITY XDG_CACHE_HOME XDG_CONFIG_HOME XDG_DATA_HOME XDG_RUNTIME_DIR XDG_STATE_HOME"
FCFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
FEATURES="assume-digests binpkg-docompress binpkg-dostrip binpkg-logs binpkg-multi-instance buildpkg-live config-protect-if-modified distlocks ebuild-locks fixlafiles ipc-sandbox merge-sync merge-wait multilib-strict network-sandbox news parallel-fetch pid-sandbox pkgdir-index-trusted preserve-libs protect-owned qa-unresolved-soname-deps sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch userpriv usersandbox usersync xattr"
FFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org"
LANG="C.UTF8"
LD="ld"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,-z,pack-relative-relocs"
LEX="flex"
MAKEOPTS="-j8"
NM="nm"
OBJCOPY="objcopy"
OBJDUMP="objdump"
PKGDIR="/var/cache/binpkgs"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --omit-dir-times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --human-readable --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --exclude=/.git"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
RANLIB="ranlib"
READELF="readelf"
RUSTFLAGS=" -C target-cpu=native"
SHELL="/nix/store/f33kh08pa7pmy4kvsmsibda46sh46s66-bash-interactive-5.2p37/bin/bash"
SIZE="size"
STRINGS="strings"
STRIP="strip"
USE="X a52 aac acl acpi alsa amd64 bluetooth branding bzip2 cairo cdda cdr cet crypt cups dbus dri dts dvd dvdr elogind encode exif flac gdbm gif gpm gtk gui iconv icu ipv6 jpeg kf6compat lcms libnotify libtirpc mad mng mp3 mp4 mpeg multilib ncurses nls ogg opengl openmp pam pango pcre pdf png policykit ppds qml qt5 qt6 readline sdl seccomp sound spell ssl startup-notification svg test-rust tiff truetype udev udisks unicode upower usb vorbis vulkan wayland wxwidgets x264 xattr xcb xft xml xv xvid zlib" ABI_X86="64" ADA_TARGET="gcc_13" APACHE2_MODULES="authn_core authz_core socache_shmcb unixd actions alias auth_basic authn_anon authn_dbm authn_file authz_dbm authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" CALLIGRA_FEATURES="karbon sheets words" COLLECTD_PLUGINS="df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog" CPU_FLAGS_X86="mmx mmxext sse sse2" ELIBC="glibc" GPSD_PROTOCOLS="ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin garmintxt gpsclock greis isync itrax navcom oceanserver oncore rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf skytraq superstar2 tsip tripmate tnt ublox" GUILE_SINGLE_TARGET="3-0" GUILE_TARGETS="3-0" INPUT_DEVICES="libinput" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb text" LUA_SINGLE_TARGET="lua5-1" LUA_TARGETS="lua5-1" OFFICE_IMPLEMENTATION="libreoffice" PHP_TARGETS="php8-2" POSTGRES_TARGETS="postgres16" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_12" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_12" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby32" VIDEO_CARDS="amdgpu fbdev intel nouveau radeon radeonsi vesa dummy" XTABLES_ADDONS="quota2 psd pknock lscan length2 ipv4options ipp2p iface geoip fuzzy condition tarpit sysrq proto logmark ipmark dhcpmac delude chaos account"
Unset:  ADDR2LINE, ARFLAGS, ASFLAGS, CCLD, CPP, CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, CXXFILT, ELFEDIT, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, EXTRA_ECONF, F77FLAGS, FC, GCOV, GPROF, INSTALL_MASK, LC_ALL, LFLAGS, LIBTOOL, LINGUAS, MAKE, MAKEFLAGS, PORTAGE_BINHOST, PORTAGE_BUNZIP2_COMMAND, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PYTHONPATH, YACC, YFLAGS

(chroot) delta-gorno / #

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect you've hit two different problems. First, I suspect you followed the handbook and ran `env -i ...` as it said at the time, but forgot `. /etc/profile` or `source /etc/profile`.

We changed the handbook again recently to drop that as it caused more problems than it solved for now. But now, you've followed the new instructions, but your environment is polluted with various things guix is setting.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sam_ wrote:
I suspect you've hit two different problems. First, I suspect you followed the handbook and ran `env -i ...` as it said at the time, but forgot `. /etc/profile` or `source /etc/profile`.

We changed the handbook again recently to drop that as it caused more problems than it solved for now. But now, you've followed the new instructions, but your environment is polluted with various things guix is setting.

Hm. I haven't run "env -i", and I have done the sourcing:
Code:
(chroot) delta-gorno / # history
    1  source /etc/profile
    2  export PS1="(chroot) ${PS1}"

I've only been at this a few hours now, so the handbook is from today.

Where does guix enter the picture here...? If it matters, I am running vterm through Emacs, and on NixOS. But no guix. What is the pollusion you mention?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The handbook instructions last week had `env -i` or something similar which would clear the environment and result in an empty PATH unless the user runs the next step of `source /etc/profile`. But they got changed back to just inheriting the parent environment now.

That's how you're getting the pollution (CONFIG_SHELL, SHELL, ...) in your emerge --info from nix (sorry, not guix, I misread the path) which is confusing things, because e.g. the path to bash there doesn't exist inside the chroot.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sam_ wrote:
The handbook instructions last week had `env -i` or something similar which would clear the environment and result in an empty PATH unless the user runs the next step of `source /etc/profile`. But they got changed back to just inheriting the parent environment now.

That's how you're getting the pollution (CONFIG_SHELL, SHELL, ...) in your emerge --info from nix (sorry, not guix, I misread the path) which is confusing things, because e.g. the path to bash there doesn't exist inside the chroot.

Aha! I've never run "env -i" before but after some googling, and with your hints, I ran:
Code:

env -i bash
source /etc/profile
export PS1="(chroot) ${PS1}"

and lo and behold, emerging works!

I'm not sure if I should continue on(?) or if maybe I should start over from a live usb stick and have everything "clean" from the get go. Think I'll continue and see how far I get. Thanks for all your help so far!

Edit: I'd consider putter that "env -i" back in the guide. I can't be the only one trying to install this way.. can I...? :roll: :D
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mariusse,

Somebody had to be first. It was your turn :)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave up installing from NixOS and tried the liveGUI image, which just dumped me to the terminal...(nvidia?) I wish it would actually start a GUI, but oh well.
After, like, ten hours today, I finally managed to start Hyprland!

Time to rest and watch the fireworks in half an hour!

If anyone here has anything to do with the Handbook, here is my 2c feedback - it has SO MUCH FLUFF!
OpenRC and systemd being jumbled together is so confusing and so are all the other options put alongside one another. The headings look so similiar it is hard to know what starts and ends where.
Choices are good and all, but I wish there was a clear-cut mainstream guide to get people started. Something like ext4, uefi, systemd, networkmanager, nvidia, pipewire, and gnome.

Anyway, thanks again for the help :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mariusse wrote:
I gave up installing from NixOS and tried the liveGUI image, which just dumped me to the terminal...(nvidia?) I wish it would actually start a GUI, but oh well.


Nivida 4000 series card by any chance?

As for the handbook, I'm not sure what we can do for the so called "fluff" as user choice is very important to us in Gentoo but ideas and suggestions are always welcomed in the discussion pages of the Handbook and one done, we would happily look into seeing if we can add them.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

immolo wrote:
[ . . . ] As for the handbook, I'm not sure what we can do for the so called "fluff" as user choice is very important to us in Gentoo but ideas and suggestions are always welcomed in the discussion pages of the Handbook and one done, we would happily look into seeing if we can add them.
Numbered section headers ? For example, in Configuring the Linux kernel if you've chosen 2.1.1 GRUB you might want to skip past the other 2.1.x subsection directly to 2.2 Initramfs. The section numbers are in the table of content but not in the running text. Right now the only cue as to the section depth is the font size of the headings, and that's a really weak signal. Can section numbers be added through reasonable CSS hacking ?

Even better would be collapsible subsections, with a "show/hide" button at the top and a "hide" button at the end.

(Posting here for now rather than in a discussion page because it applies to all arches; not sure Handbook Main Page's discussion tab would be right.)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Returning the numbers to the headings sounds like a worthy discussion point. As for the collapsible idea, I'm not sure mediawiki supports it so would need to looked into further, however I wonder if the sidebar navigation idea that floats around would work in in its place.

In short, some nice ideas and can I please ask you to raise them in https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook_Talk:AMD64 (if it affects all arches then just post it to AMD64 and highlight it your topic.)
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