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Massimo B.
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 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:17 pm Post subject: fontconfig recommendation |
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Hi,
reading https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Fontconfig I'm a bit lost what I should set on eselect fontconfig and what I should emerge.
The old days when I was using eselect-infinality and media-libs/fontconfig-ultimate are gone since a long time now.
I'm using Xfce, have enabled hinting there and have set the "Exo 2 Regular 8" as default font and "Terminus Regular 8" as default monospace font, [x] enable anti-aliasing, hinting full, sub-pixel order rgb.
Now what do I need to enable in eselect fontconfig? Do I need any of 10-autohint.conf 10-hinting-full.conf ... to get hinting working correctly?
According to the Wiki, if the Gentoo Fonts team recommendation for default Latin fonts is media-fonts/liberation-fonts, do I need to enable 60-liberation.conf?
Which setups are fully working font setups so I could compare what I do prefer...
If the WM like Xfce already sets it's own default font, what does 60-liberation.conf set then?
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Massimo B.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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It feels like fontconfig does only set defaults for environments without having a WM setting all that already.
That means it won't make a difference at least within my Xfce session. To re-apply the same settings for working without Xfce in some situations I could set:
| Code: | | # eselect fontconfig enable 10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf 11-lcdfilter-default.conf 60-liberation.conf |
Is that true?
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: fontconfig recommendation |
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| Massimo B. wrote: | According to the Wiki, if the Gentoo Fonts team recommendation for default Latin fonts is media-fonts/liberation-fonts, do I need to enable 60-liberation.conf?
Which setups are fully working font setups so I could compare what I do prefer...
If the WM like Xfce already sets it's own default font, what does 60-liberation.conf set then?
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Take a look at /etc/fonts/conf.avail/60-liberation.conf:
| Code: | #cat /etc/fonts/conf.avail/60-liberation.conf
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
<!-- Symlinking this file to /etc/fonts/conf.d/ will allow
you to use liberation fonts instead of the microsoft truetype fonts.
(from http://uwstopia.nl/blog/2007/05/free-your-fonts) -->
<!-- Liberation fonts -->
<match target="pattern">
<test qual="any" name="family"><string>Times New Roman</string></test>
<edit name="family" mode="assign"><string>Liberation Serif</string></edit>
</match>
<match target="pattern">
<test qual="any" name="family"><string>Arial</string></test>
<edit name="family" mode="assign"><string>Liberation Sans</string></edit>
</match>
<match target="pattern">
<test qual="any" name="family"><string>Courier</string></test>
<edit name="family" mode="assign"><string>Liberation Mono</string></edit>
</match>
<match target="pattern">
<test qual="any" name="family"><string>Arial Narrow</string></test>
<edit name="family" mode="assign"><string>Liberation Sans Narrow</string></edit>
</match>
</fontconfig> |
If you enable 60-liberation.conf, programs and GUIs that use the fontconfig mechanism will use Liberation fonts instead of Times New Roman, Arial and Courier.
Do NOT enable 60-liberation.conf if Times New Roman, Arial and Courier are installed on your machine.
Do NOT enable 60-liberation.conf if you want another font to be used instead of Times New Roman, Arial and Courier.
Enable 60-liberation.conf if Times New Roman, Arial and Courier are NOT installed on your machine and if you want your machine to use Liberation instead of those fonts. |
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Massimo B.
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Coming back to this topic.
On #gentoo-desktop we came to speak about terminal fonts, my favourite is media-fonts/terminus-font because all other fonts are rendering really worse.
(too bad that this forum doesn't provide a long-time picture hosting... these screenshots will disappear soon:(Take care to disable scaling in the browser, in Firefox I need to click the picture once.)
Beside terminal fonts, my default Xfce font is Exo 2:
Another user said, Liberation is rendering fine on his machine, and that my hinting is broken somehow, making be replace it by a fixed bitmap font.
I'm using Xfce on Xorg. My Settings->Appearance->Fonts is set to: | Code: | [x] Enable anti-aliasing
Hinting: Full
Sub-pixel-order: RGB
DPI: [ ] Custom DPI setting / |
I was using fontconfig-ultimate in the past:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-993030.html
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1132827html
Today I still have media-fonts/fonts-meta Maybe some leftovers are breaking something?
| Code: | root ~ tree /etc/fonts/
/etc/fonts/
├── conf.avail
│ ├── 05-reset-dirs-sample.conf
│ ├── 09-autohint-if-no-hinting.conf
│ ├── 10-autohint.conf
│ ├── 10-hinting-full.conf
│ ├── 10-hinting-medium.conf
│ ├── 10-hinting-none.conf
│ ├── 10-hinting-slight.conf
│ ├── 10-no-antialias.conf
│ ├── 10-powerline-symbols.conf
│ ├── 10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf
│ ├── 10-sub-pixel-bgr.conf
│ ├── 10-sub-pixel-none.conf
│ ├── 10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf
│ ├── 10-sub-pixel-vbgr.conf
│ ├── 10-sub-pixel-vrgb.conf
│ ├── 10-unhinted.conf
│ ├── 10-yes-antialias.conf
│ ├── 11-lcdfilter-default.conf
│ ├── 11-lcdfilter-legacy.conf
│ ├── 11-lcdfilter-light.conf
│ ├── 11-lcdfilter-none.conf
│ ├── 20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans.conf
│ ├── 20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans-mono.conf
│ ├── 20-unhint-small-dejavu-serif.conf
│ ├── 20-unhint-small-vera.conf
│ ├── 25-unhint-nonlatin.conf
│ ├── 30-metric-aliases.conf
│ ├── 35-lang-normalize.conf
│ ├── 40-nonlatin.conf
│ ├── 42-luxi-mono.conf
│ ├── 45-generic.conf
│ ├── 45-latin.conf
│ ├── 48-spacing.conf
│ ├── 49-sansserif.conf
│ ├── 50-user.conf
│ ├── 51-local.conf
│ ├── 57-dejavu-sans.conf
│ ├── 57-dejavu-sans-mono.conf
│ ├── 57-dejavu-serif.conf
│ ├── 59-google-droid-sans.conf
│ ├── 59-google-droid-sans-mono.conf
│ ├── 59-google-droid-serif.conf
│ ├── 60-generic.conf
│ ├── 60-latin.conf
│ ├── 60-liberation.conf
│ ├── 61-urw-bookman.conf
│ ├── 61-urw-c059.conf
│ ├── 61-urw-d050000l.conf
│ ├── 61-urw-fallback-backwards.conf
│ ├── 61-urw-fallback-generics.conf
│ ├── 61-urw-fallback-specifics.conf
│ ├── 61-urw-gothic.conf
│ ├── 61-urw-nimbus-mono-ps.conf
│ ├── 61-urw-nimbus-roman.conf
│ ├── 61-urw-nimbus-sans.conf
│ ├── 61-urw-p052.conf
│ ├── 61-urw-standard-symbols-ps.conf
│ ├── 61-urw-z003.conf
│ ├── 62-crosextra-caladea.conf
│ ├── 62-crosextra-carlito.conf
│ ├── 65-fonts-persian.conf
│ ├── 65-khmer.conf
│ ├── 65-nonlatin.conf
│ ├── 66-noto-mono.conf
│ ├── 66-noto-sans.conf
│ ├── 66-noto-serif.conf
│ ├── 69-unifont.conf
│ ├── 70-no-bitmaps.conf
│ ├── 70-yes-bitmaps.conf
│ ├── 75-noto-emoji-fallback.conf
│ ├── 75-yes-terminus.conf
│ ├── 80-delicious.conf
│ ├── 90-roboto-regular.conf
│ └── 90-synthetic.conf
├── conf.d
│ ├── 10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf -> ../conf.avail/10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf
│ ├── 10-yes-antialias.conf -> ../conf.avail/10-yes-antialias.conf
│ ├── 11-lcdfilter-default.conf -> ../conf.avail/11-lcdfilter-default.conf
│ ├── 42-luxi-mono.conf -> ../conf.avail/42-luxi-mono.conf
│ ├── 60-liberation.conf -> ../conf.avail/60-liberation.conf
│ ├── disabled
│ │ ├── 10-autohint.conf -> /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-autohint.conf
│ │ ├── 11-lcdfilter-default.conf -> /etc/fonts/conf.avail/11-lcdfilter-default.conf
│ │ ├── 20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans.conf -> /etc/fonts/conf.avail/20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans.conf
│ │ ├── 20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans-mono.conf -> /etc/fonts/conf.avail/20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans-mono.conf
│ │ ├── 20-unhint-small-dejavu-serif.conf -> /etc/fonts/conf.avail/20-unhint-small-dejavu-serif.conf
│ │ ├── 25-unhint-nonlatin.conf -> /etc/fonts/conf.avail/25-unhint-nonlatin.conf
│ │ ├── 57-dejavu-sans.conf -> /etc/fonts/conf.avail/57-dejavu-sans.conf
│ │ ├── 57-dejavu-sans-mono.conf -> /etc/fonts/conf.avail/57-dejavu-sans-mono.conf
│ │ └── 57-dejavu-serif.conf -> /etc/fonts/conf.avail/57-dejavu-serif.conf
│ ├── disabled.2
│ └── README
├── fonts.conf
└── PowerlineSymbols.otf
5 directories, 91 files |
| Code: | root ~ eselect fontconfig list
Available fontconfig .conf files (* is enabled):
[1] 05-reset-dirs-sample.conf
[2] 09-autohint-if-no-hinting.conf
[3] 10-autohint.conf
[4] 10-hinting-full.conf
[5] 10-hinting-medium.conf
[6] 10-hinting-none.conf
[7] 10-hinting-slight.conf
[8] 10-no-antialias.conf
[9] 10-powerline-symbols.conf
[10] 10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf
[11] 10-sub-pixel-bgr.conf
[12] 10-sub-pixel-none.conf
[13] 10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf *
[14] 10-sub-pixel-vbgr.conf
[15] 10-sub-pixel-vrgb.conf
[16] 10-unhinted.conf
[17] 10-yes-antialias.conf *
[18] 11-lcdfilter-default.conf *
[19] 11-lcdfilter-legacy.conf
[20] 11-lcdfilter-light.conf
[21] 11-lcdfilter-none.conf
[22] 20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans.conf
[23] 20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans-mono.conf
[24] 20-unhint-small-dejavu-serif.conf
[25] 20-unhint-small-vera.conf
[26] 25-unhint-nonlatin.conf
[27] 30-metric-aliases.conf
[28] 35-lang-normalize.conf
[29] 40-nonlatin.conf
[30] 42-luxi-mono.conf *
[31] 45-generic.conf
[32] 45-latin.conf
[33] 48-spacing.conf
[34] 49-sansserif.conf
[35] 50-user.conf
[36] 51-local.conf
[37] 57-dejavu-sans.conf
[38] 57-dejavu-sans-mono.conf
[39] 57-dejavu-serif.conf
[40] 59-google-droid-sans.conf
[41] 59-google-droid-sans-mono.conf
[42] 59-google-droid-serif.conf
[43] 60-generic.conf
[44] 60-latin.conf
[45] 60-liberation.conf *
[46] 61-urw-bookman.conf
[47] 61-urw-c059.conf
[48] 61-urw-d050000l.conf
[49] 61-urw-fallback-backwards.conf
[50] 61-urw-fallback-generics.conf
[51] 61-urw-fallback-specifics.conf
[52] 61-urw-gothic.conf
[53] 61-urw-nimbus-mono-ps.conf
[54] 61-urw-nimbus-roman.conf
[55] 61-urw-nimbus-sans.conf
[56] 61-urw-p052.conf
[57] 61-urw-standard-symbols-ps.conf
[58] 61-urw-z003.conf
[59] 62-crosextra-caladea.conf
[60] 62-crosextra-carlito.conf
[61] 65-fonts-persian.conf
[62] 65-khmer.conf
[63] 65-nonlatin.conf
[64] 66-noto-mono.conf
[65] 66-noto-sans.conf
[66] 66-noto-serif.conf
[67] 69-unifont.conf
[68] 70-no-bitmaps.conf
[69] 70-yes-bitmaps.conf
[70] 75-noto-emoji-fallback.conf
[71] 75-yes-terminus.conf
[72] 80-delicious.conf
[73] 90-roboto-regular.conf
[74] 90-synthetic.conf |
Comparing the eselect fontconfig list with the other user, I enabled the same stuff now like him. But I guess that will need a reboot…: | Code: | root ~ eselect fontconfig list
Available fontconfig .conf files (* is enabled):
[1] 05-reset-dirs-sample.conf
[2] 09-autohint-if-no-hinting.conf
[3] 10-autohint.conf
[4] 10-hinting-full.conf
[5] 10-hinting-medium.conf
[6] 10-hinting-none.conf
[7] 10-hinting-slight.conf *
[8] 10-no-antialias.conf
[9] 10-powerline-symbols.conf
[10] 10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf *
[11] 10-sub-pixel-bgr.conf
[12] 10-sub-pixel-none.conf *
[13] 10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf *
[14] 10-sub-pixel-vbgr.conf
[15] 10-sub-pixel-vrgb.conf
[16] 10-unhinted.conf
[17] 10-yes-antialias.conf *
[18] 11-lcdfilter-default.conf *
[19] 11-lcdfilter-legacy.conf
[20] 11-lcdfilter-light.conf
[21] 11-lcdfilter-none.conf
[22] 20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans.conf
[23] 20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans-mono.conf
[24] 20-unhint-small-dejavu-serif.conf
[25] 20-unhint-small-vera.conf *
[26] 25-unhint-nonlatin.conf *
[27] 30-metric-aliases.conf *
[28] 35-lang-normalize.conf
[29] 40-nonlatin.conf *
[30] 42-luxi-mono.conf *
[31] 45-generic.conf *
[32] 45-latin.conf *
[33] 48-spacing.conf *
[34] 49-sansserif.conf *
[35] 50-user.conf *
[36] 51-local.conf *
[37] 57-dejavu-sans.conf
[38] 57-dejavu-sans-mono.conf
[39] 57-dejavu-serif.conf
[40] 59-google-droid-sans.conf
[41] 59-google-droid-sans-mono.conf
[42] 59-google-droid-serif.conf
[43] 60-generic.conf *
[44] 60-latin.conf *
[45] 60-liberation.conf *
[46] 61-urw-bookman.conf
[47] 61-urw-c059.conf
[48] 61-urw-d050000l.conf
[49] 61-urw-fallback-backwards.conf
[50] 61-urw-fallback-generics.conf
[51] 61-urw-fallback-specifics.conf
[52] 61-urw-gothic.conf
[53] 61-urw-nimbus-mono-ps.conf
[54] 61-urw-nimbus-roman.conf
[55] 61-urw-nimbus-sans.conf
[56] 61-urw-p052.conf
[57] 61-urw-standard-symbols-ps.conf
[58] 61-urw-z003.conf
[59] 62-crosextra-caladea.conf
[60] 62-crosextra-carlito.conf
[61] 65-fonts-persian.conf *
[62] 65-khmer.conf
[63] 65-nonlatin.conf *
[64] 66-noto-mono.conf
[65] 66-noto-sans.conf
[66] 66-noto-serif.conf
[67] 69-unifont.conf *
[68] 70-no-bitmaps.conf
[69] 70-yes-bitmaps.conf
[70] 75-noto-emoji-fallback.conf *
[71] 75-yes-terminus.conf
[72] 80-delicious.conf *
[73] 90-roboto-regular.conf
[74] 90-synthetic.conf * |
What I understood so far, all these settings only define which replacement fonts are taken and don't affect the hinting? But I remember old fontconfig-ultimate was affecting hinting somehow…
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