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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dumi@dumidek ~ $ ps aux |grep "dbus.*access"
root      2961  0.0  0.0   4856  2560 ?        S    09:00   0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 11 --address=unix:path=/run/user/0/at-spi/bus_0
dumi      4772  0.0  0.0   9256  2176 pts/1    S+   09:01   0:00 grep --color=auto dbus.*access

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the START time of my users dbus-daemon I see it's started too late, somewhere between by failing evolution starts, but not after the Xfce login this morning.
I checked all dbus related recent updates, and there was nothing. lightdm wasn't updated. Only major update of Xfce 4.18.0 to 4.20.0
Which Window Manager / Desktop Environment are you using?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea what happens, if the service is missing after you killed the lightdm one, please try. Maybe a new user process is started then.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm using Mate
killing the dbus proccess makes no difference.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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# ps aux |grep "dbus.*access"
lightdm   2223  0.0  0.0   5648  2944 ?        S    08:29   0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 11 --address=unix:path=/run/user/134/at-spi/bus_0
root      3418  0.0  0.0   6660  2176 pts/0    S+   09:13   0:00 grep --color=auto dbus.*access


I am using the i3 window manager, but there are lots of xfce elements (eg.thunar file manager, mousepad and xfce terminal).
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does that mean, killing the dbus-daemon process makes always a new process being started as lightdm user?
Ok, for now it does not seem to be WM related, there are users with Xfce (me), i3 (Da51d), Mate(dumi)...

Are all of you using lightdm as Login-manager?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are all of you using lightdm as Login-manager?


I am.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Massimo B. wrote:

Are all of you using lightdm as Login-manager?


Me too.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been similar(?) bugs https://bugs.gentoo.org/886485 https://bugs.gentoo.org/903543
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i run command
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/usr/libexec/at-spi-bus-launcher --launch-immediately

mentioned here:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/886485

evolution starts fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't work for me
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$ /usr/libexec/at-spi-bus-launcher --launch-immediately
$ evolution

(evolution:3289): dbind-WARNING **: 23:50:11.640: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/134/at-spi/bus_0: Permission denied

(evolution-alarm-notify:3305): dbind-WARNING **: 23:50:11.734: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/134/at-spi/bus_0: Permission denied
bwrap: Can't find source path /run/user/134/at-spi: Permission denied

** (evolution:3289): ERROR **: 23:50:11.879: Failed to fully launch dbus-proxy: Child process exited with code 1
Trace/breakpoint trap

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if you kill the other daemon?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And if you kill the other daemon?


Makes no difference.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Da51d wrote:
Makes no difference.
So you have never seen Evolution starting recently with either version of the webkit-gtk? Then it's different again on your installation, here it is working sometimes and can't say why.

So for now we have 3 (probably duplicate) tickets:
    Bug 886485 mail-client/evolution-3.46.2 hangs forever after printing out error message 'bwrap: Can't find source path /run/user/1000/at-spi: No such file or directory'
    Bug 903543 mail-client/evolution does not start, gives "Failed to connect to socket /root/.cache/at-spi/bus_0: Permission denied"
    Bug 949238 mail-client/evolution fails to start
Which means, the issue is not new and existed almost 3 years ago, I haven't seen it before.

Can someone please cross-reference the tickets by See Also:, I don't have the permissions to do.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can someone please cross-reference the tickets by See Also:, I don't have the permissions to do.


Done.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

on my second PC, where i have same problem with evolution running command:

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/usr/libexec/at-spi-bus-launcher --launch-immediately


helps too.

When the at-spi daemon is running for my user, evolution starts fine, if it is not running (at-spi), evolution tryes to pick proccess (socket) from other user (for me is root) and fails to start with no permission error.

So i thnik the problem is with the ap-spi not running, but why? Before upgrading the system (emerge -va -1uD @world, about 600 packages), everything was working fine.

My both computers behave the same way. computers have slightly different config, but basic is the same, Lightdm / Mate / Evolution.

PS: sorry for my bad english, i hope that my messages are understandable.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, I am getting issues with mousepad and thunar, as shown in .xsession-errors
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(mousepad:2519): dbind-WARNING **: 10:39:28.103: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/134/at-spi/bus_0: Permission denied
(thunar:2413): dbind-WARNING **: 10:37:58.351: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/134/at-spi/bus_0: Permission denied


(Although Thunar and Mousepad both still work)
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