pcmanfm-qt depends on kde wayland opengl?? say it ain't so!

[jesnow]

Our favorite light file manager seems to have some new heavy dependencies on kde plasma:

[Hu]

If you think the dependencies are wrong, then either (a) consult the git history to see why they were added, and review whether those reasons are valid or (b) force Portage to try to install it without those dependencies, and see whether it works.

[jesnow]

Yes, did that. Bottom line seems to be that pcmanfm-qt now hard depends on layer-shell-qt to be able to manage the desktop under wayland
I don't know what will happen if I try to prevent layer-shell-qt from being built, but from their CMakeLists.txt, it looks like it won't build, and if I did manage to make it build it would break.

[Hu]

If the upstream code has a hard dependency on Wayland now, then that is something you should discuss with upstream. Gentoo set the DEPEND relation so that you cannot accidentally try to build a configuration that the Gentoo maintainers already know will fail. I am not familiar with this package, so I have no insight into how readily, if at all, you could talk upstream into making this optional.

[asturm]

It was discussed between upstream and the downstream maintainer, no need to bother them again - it is what it is.

[GDH-gentoo]

In other words:

[jesnow]

[GDH-gentoo]

[Chiitoo]

For upstream discussion on this matter, see for example:

https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/2579
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Kindest of regardses.

[jesnow]

Yup, it used to be a lightweight graphical file manager that could run in a headless X environment. But no more. It's just how the world is these days.

[Chiitoo]

Curious about the use-case.

A GUI file-manager on a headless system because...?

I know I'm missing something but not sure what at this time heh.
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Kindest of regardses.

[jesnow]

Sometimes it's more convenient and safer to manipulate files directly on the file server (eg a NAS) than to do it via nfs. Especially when you're poking around on the parts of it that aren't exported to nfs. I also use xosview as a system monitor, which doesn't depend on wayland at all. Admittedly, most of the time using nfs with regular tools (like dolphin) is just fine. My file server doesn't even have a monitor attached. I havent started X in at least a few years on it.

[jesnow]

Also: I have a raspberry pi with an audiophile DAC on it, I connect it to my (also headless X) NAS by NFS. It's really amazing how big a difference the quality of the DAC makes. The little PI sounds much better than any computer. But I need a way to pick the files to play. Pcmanfm-qt is great. I don't need wayland baggage for that. But it's required. Other lxqt apps don't require wayland, but pcmanfm-qt does. It's pretty rich to say "it's a graphical application, deal with it" as @GDH-gentoo maintains.

I know there's a million other ways to accomplish this task, like Kodi and Volumio. But they both have crap user interfaces designed to mimic set-top boxes they are trying to be. But they waste a lot of screen space with useless stuff, and they are hard to navigate, assuming that you have all your files locally. I like pcmanfm-qt and qmmp a lot better for browsing and playing my files.

I was at MIT while X was being developed. It was very cool, and I liked the idea that I can have one display and be running programs on any number of computers. I liked the idea that you would have different machines for different purposes and run their interface on the one in front of you. That ability is going away with wayland. I guess I'll be running X until I can't any more.

[flexibeast]