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 Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:03 am Post subject: Jamin not starting anymore (solved) |
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I'm playing around with loudspeakers at the moment and I was looking for a real-time spectrum analyser so I can just set up a mic, run it to the pc and see (or not) what my fiddling around has on the sound.
Now in the past I used Jamin for that. The package is still on my pc but I haven't used it for a long time. Now I want to start it and I get some errors. I thought at first that is wasn't up-to-date but according to portage it is up-to-date.
| Code: | * media-sound/jamin
Latest version available: 0.98.9_pre20170111
Latest version installed: 0.98.9_pre20170111
Size of files: 676 KiB
Homepage: https://jamin.sourceforge.net/en/about.html https://salsa.debian.org/multimedia-team/jamin
Description: Audio mastering interface for JACK Audio Connection Kit (JACK)
License: GPL-2
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When I just click on the icon in the start menu "nothing happens" so I tried it in a terminal as normal user:
| Code: | ~ $ jamin
jamin 0.98.9
(C) 2003-2013 J. Depner, S. Harris, J. O'Quin, R. Parker and P. Shirkey
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details.
Cannot find plugin 'foo_limiter.so'
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.390: gtk_grid_attach: assertion 'width > 0' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.391: gtk_grid_attach: assertion 'width > 0' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.391: gtk_grid_attach: assertion 'width > 0' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.391: gtk_grid_attach: assertion 'width > 0' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.418: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.418: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.430: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.430: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.433: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.433: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.435: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.435: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.436: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.437: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.437: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.439: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.439: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.439: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.439: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.440: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.440: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.442: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.442: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.514: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.514: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.514: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.514: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.514: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.514: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.514: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.515: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.516: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.516: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.516: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.516: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.516: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.516: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.516: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.516: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
(jamin:12866): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:44:28.516: gtk_widget_draw: assertion '!widget->priv->alloc_needed' failed
Segmentation fault |
When I run it as root I get something else:
| Code: | ~ # jamin
jamin 0.98.9
(C) 2003-2013 J. Depner, S. Harris, J. O'Quin, R. Parker and P. Shirkey
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details.
connect(2) call to /dev/shm/jack-0/default/jack_0 failed (err=No such file or directory)
jackd 0.125.0
Copyright 2001-2009 Paul Davis, Stephane Letz, Jack O'Quinn, Torben Hohn and others.
jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
loading driver ..
creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.portal file system /run/user/1000/doc
Output information may be incomplete.
ATTENTION: The playback device "hw:0" is already in use. The following applications are using your soundcard(s) so you should check them and stop them as necessary before trying to start JACK again:
jackd (process ID 3674)
connect(2) call to /dev/shm/jack-0/default/jack_0 failed (err=Connection refused)
connect(2) call to /dev/shm/jack-0/default/jack_0 failed (err=Connection refused)
connect(2) call to /dev/shm/jack-0/default/jack_0 failed (err=Connection refused)
connect(2) call to /dev/shm/jack-0/default/jack_0 failed (err=Connection refused)
connect(2) call to /dev/shm/jack-0/default/jack_0 failed (err=Connection refused)
attempt to connect to server failed
jamin: jack_client_open() failed, status = 0x11 |
Which is strange because Jack is running. But here I fear that Jamin is looking in the wrong place:
| Code: |
connect(2) call to /dev/shm/jack-0/default/jack_0 failed (err=No such file or directory) |
The normal user is 1000, not 0 (which I think is root). But even if I tell it not to connect or I tell it to connect to which Jack ports I get the same result.
The thing about foo_limiter.so missing is also strange. I would suspect portage to check for such dependencies.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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this tool is very old >> 2022 last update !
what are you using - X11 or wayland ?
try as User from terminal:
GDK_BACKEND=X11 jamin or GDK_BACKEND=wayland
CLUTTER_BACKEND=x11 jamin or CLUTTER_BACKEND=wayland
i assume there are many alternatives available now.
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Wanted to try it, but it doesn't even compile on my system. Just got a wall of gkt-related errors, something about pointer compatibility, yada yada.... I'm not THAT curious about it.
Anyway, if you haven't used it for a long time, you might try rebuilding it first, as you probably updated your system in the meantime, and it wouldn't be too surprising if some dependency broke compatibility.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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https://bugs.gentoo.org/914927 - same issue.
look at https://decibellinux.org/ <<< former gentoostudio.
ask the creator of decibellinux for some alternatives.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, so that end runs dead. 2022 isn't that old, I'm running far older software than that!
| Quote: | | i assume there are many alternatives available now. |
Thought that as well. But I haven't found any that use Jack. At this moment it is the real-time analyser that I'm looking for. There are analysers out there but all I found are to analyse files on playback. I do have REW which should be able to do it but that one refuses to start anymore. The other one I found is Friture (*) and that doesn't start either, complaining about "input selection". But the message is too cryptic to actually mean anything to me.
I took a look at decibellinux. They do not support Jack (version 1) "because it does not support multi-processor machines". Very strange as I have run Jack on dual Athlon and dual Opteron (2 of those) machines for years. Even with multiple soundcards (RME digi 9652 and digi 96/, something which Jack (version 2) does not support (unless you merge 2 devices if I understand the faq). But worth checking out.
(*) "Friture" is a places making and selling fries over here in Belgium. Bit of a strange name for a piece of software 
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Spanik, check out calf. It is in portage, and comes with calfjackhost you can use to configure plugins as standalone effects for programs that don't support calf plugins.
| Quote: | | does not support multi-processor machines" |
It doesn't mean it won't run on a multicore cpu. It typically means it won't run on more than one core at the same time. Which is not a problem for video playback, but might become one when e.g. extra latency adds up over a few loops and gets you out of sync on something more interactive, like recording a song over multiple passes, one track at a time.
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Ok, I see what you mean by running on multiple cores at the same time. If that is an issue is more likely case dependent. Jack is normally
I checked the Calf website and it looks like what I need. Only trouble is that after removing "xwaylandvideobridge" I have a serious sound problem. First have to solve that.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Got calf from portage and tried a few things. Looks like this does what I need at this moment. Probably more that can be useful later as well.
Thanks for suggesting this.
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