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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:02 pm    Post subject: Can someone suggest a good e-mail client? Reply with quote

I just want to get mail from my pop3 account and eliminate virus/spam
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evolution is the best email client available atm imho.
As to scanning for viruses, I use clamav although there are others of note.

As to scanning viruses in emails - I don't think any *nix based email client does that.

I do run a postfix email server + clamav scanning + spamassassin though :)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i read the docs on postfix, but i don't understand what it is

does it run an e-mail domain? or is it like an e-mail proxy for your internal network?

(i feel so nub. i think windows put a damper on my intellect)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

postfix is an email server

outlook is an email client

any clearer?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Postfix is a full mail server, like sendmail, but much easier to configure :D

Some people, myself included, use postfix on their local machines as part of a local mail system: this allows you to use some powerful tools (spamfilters and the like) which are designed for mail servers.

Typically the way this will work is

fetchmail (grabs email from your remote POP3 server) ->
Postfix ->
filtering tools (SpamAssassin, etc) ->
a local POP3 or IMAP server ->
your mail client.

It's fun to set up if you have the time.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

d3vr0n wrote:
i read the docs on postfix, but i don't understand what it is


postfix is a mail server, most home users do not need to run it.

Traditionally many linux users ran postfix or sendmail locally for sending email, this is as obsolete behavior for desktop users. Very few viruses impact linux systems and there are single users solutions like procmail and spamassassin to clean spam and most viruses. Try Evolution as a client, the version coming out shortly is integrated with spamassassin for spam filtering.

Running a local MTA (Mail Transfer Agent, eg., postfix) does give you some additional power in managing your email, if your interested there is allready a thread about email solutions for a home network.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks MrPyro, but I think i made myself unclear.

I want to retrieve e-mail from multiple POP3 accounts. The e-mail addresses will be used for business purposes, so I will need a spam utility, but a virus scanner is probably not necessary. After the e-mail has been retrieved, I want each employee to be able to read their e-mail spam free at their own workstation.

Am I describing a virtual mailserver or is Evolution + SpamAssasin my ticket?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favourite is Sylpheed-Claws combined with SPAMAssassin.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

d3vr0n wrote:
Thanks MrPyro, but I think i made myself unclear.

I want to retrieve e-mail from multiple POP3 accounts. The e-mail addresses will be used for business purposes, so I will need a spam utility, but a virus scanner is probably not necessary. After the e-mail has been retrieved, I want each employee to be able to read their e-mail spam free at their own workstation.

Am I describing a virtual mailserver or is Evolution + SpamAssasin my ticket?


For that situation, with multiple workstations and such, it would probably be easier to go with Evolution + SpamAssassin. You could set up the configuration I mentioned on each desktop (complex and probably a little overkill).

I assume when you say you have to retrieve from multiple POP3 accounts that the mail server you are retrieving from is not under your control. One other possibility would be to set up a local mail server. This could handle POPping the mail from the remote server, split it based on which email address it was grabbed from (so that employees only get their own mail), run it through a spam filter, then make it available for POP/IMAP so that the employees can access it using an email client (again, probably Evolution). The main advantage to this is that it centralises your spam filtering. It's probably over complex, but I just thought I'd mention it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:46 pm    Post subject: Mozilla Thunderbird Reply with quote

I have found Thunderbird to do everything I require as a mail cient. The thing i like about it is that it will work the same on Linux, Windows or Mac.

It also has a really nice way of handling multiple email accounts, which I find easier than evolution which is really nothing more than an outlook clone to me.

just my 2c

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MyPyro:

Yea! That's what I want. What things should I emerge?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. The mail server will need

fetchmail
postfix
SpamAssassin
a POP3 or IMAP server: Courier is reasonably good for IMAP, I am not in a position to judge on POP3 servers as I have never set one up in my life. Given you're going to be running a local mail server, IMAP should be fine, as this will give you a central copy of all email, which is useful for backup purposes.

Each employee will require a user account on the server (you can do virtual mail serving which doesn't require this, but I have no knowledge of setting that up. Plus having them with user accounts means you can use the server for other things as well, like file serving, for example).

Your fetchmailrc file will be the most important bit. This is where you configure how the mail is grabbed from the remote server and ditributed to the employees. Here is a sample
Code:


set daemon 60
 
poll mail.nekrodomos.net proto POP3 user "nekrodomos-pyro" is "pyro" pass "insertpasswordhere"
 
poll mail.easihosting.com proto POP3 user "simpson" is "pyro" pass "anotherpassword" keep


The set daemon line tells fetchmail how often to check the remote server for mail.
Each poll line refers to one email account. The basic form is

Code:
poll $MAILSERVER proto $MAILPROTOCOL user "$MAILUSER" is "$LOCALUSER" pass "$PASSWORD" $OPTIONS


So, in the examples above, I am polling two mailservers, giving different usernames and passwords, but both are delivered to pyro on the local system (me). The keep option tells fetchmail to leave mail on the server, not delete it.
So, for each of your employees you will need a poll line which connects to the mail server, grabs the mail, and delivers it to their local user account. This will then pass the email into postfix.

Postfix configuration is reasonably simple. The default config file is pretty good and generally only needs a little tweaking. I don't know a lot about setting up postfix to filter mail through SpamAssassin; somebody else will have to help you there.

I am going to stop now, because here in the UK it's half past midnight and I need my beauty sleep before work tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Can someone suggest a good e-mail client? Reply with quote

d3vr0n wrote:
I just want to get mail from my pop3 account and eliminate virus/spam

I do that with Kmail. It is part of KDE.
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