Installing portage on other distros, easier than ever

devsk · Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:13 pm Post subject:

those "BAD COUNTER" errors during inject are fine.

you can let it emerge libtool, it will just overwrite the existing install with newer version.

just do:

malmjako

I downloaded http://dev.gentoo.org/~carpaski/portage_rescue/portage-rescue-2.0.44-ppc.tbz2 and extracted it. When doing an emerge sync I got the following response:

devsk · Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:38 am Post subject:

2.0.44 is ollllddddd, portage stands at 2.0.50-r1 ATM, I think it should be fixed by now...we won't be having it running on all kinds of platforms otherwise...

raid517 · l33t Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 946

Hmm welll i tried hard to get that script going on Slackware - and I'm sorry to say that it was just no go. Everything you suggested still left me trying to get gentoo's libtools to emerge - and nothing I did would make it do that.

I also just toasted a perfectly good SuSe system by trying it, which promptly crapped out on some python compiling error (similar to the last but with a completely seperate ebuild this time).

So maybe I should try the tarball method? The only problem is that I can't even extract the tarball cleanly at this time.

If I try I get this error::

devsk · Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:38 am Post subject:

dude, you have to stick with one thing. what happened when you typed:

raid517 · l33t Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 946

Well I kinda thought I was being helpful. I thought that maybe the best approach was a clean start - so I moved on to Suse.

It didn't seem very random at the time. I'm sure you really can't be around 24/7 - but its tough to live for long periods of time with a machine in various stages of limbo.

I thought since you said you never experienced any difficulties like this on other distros that maybe that was the best answer.

In any case Slacksware is no more. I had used Suse previously to Slackware anyway - but I've always been kind of dissapointed with the package selection on Suse. Things can get old pretty fast.

Nonetheless I really do appreciate all your effort and if toasting a Suse install is what it takes to get portage going - then so be it.

I think the rescue tarball approach is probably the best method. I don't suppose you could reinstate your original instructions for the tarball - as there are still quite a few mirrors that are serving it? Also what do you think is causing those errors when I try to unpack it?

GJ

devsk · Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:51 am Post subject:

that warning is fine according to the README...

I think the exact command was supposed to be:

raid517 · l33t Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 946

Umm... No the package should extract cleanly - and quite with warnings about garbage - what that is is an additonal error message. I've seen it do it before on Slackware - but for some reason I can't quite recall at this time some other problem cropped up that stopped me from using it.

Well anyway I'm enjoying a bit of a first ATM - for the first time in two years of messing with Linux I have finally got a full accelerated digital optical sound and full blown accelerated video running. I have just finished playing a game of GTA Vice city via WineX - and have been unable to notice any kind of significant performance hit from doing so.

It was an interesting experience - but it does rather show that you have to be fairly commited to get anywhere with Linux.

Anyhoo I digress - the package should quit cleanly - with only some warnings about garbage - but I don't think there should be an error message there.

GJ

devsk · Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 8:09 am Post subject:

did you notice that your command was incomplete (trailing "/" was missing)...so, unless you were doing it from /, it would be messy anyway....if you emerge sync despite the tar error, what happens? emerge sync is pretty harmless, in the sens that its not installing/modifying any packages.

another thing: "emerge portage" will try to emerge the whole world of packages...manually inject the packages that you injected yesterday e.g. like baselayout, gcc, glibc, pam,...

mahir · l33t Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 725 Location: London

it took me like 2 months to get
xinelibs working on fedora

and portage just installed it

dammmmmmmmmm
this is mad

so help me out

1) could i install fedora with the minial settings, and/or desktop settings..
then give it a portage layer and then use portage for everything?

2) would portage work on cygwin?

3) would portage work on freedos (like i saw posted before)
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devsk · Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:23 pm Post subject:

Mahir,

1. doable. you can infact gentoofy your minimal fedora install with this...
2. more doable than having portage on solaris. I had some trouble porting portage on solaris but its working great now(I recently emerged KDE with it:D ). So, go for it!
3. no idea!

for all 3, you should be ready to put in extra work to set it up and be ready to take on code walkthrough's and fix problems, familiarity with python and shell scripting would help...this link might come in handy when looking at portage code:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~g2boojum/portage.html

Lodd3r · n00b Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 2

i got it perfectly installed now error's but when i continue as you can see below i get this error and i don't know how to adjust it or to fix it i'm running slackware plz help.

devsk · Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:19 pm Post subject:

which version did you install?

>=2.0.50 looks in /usr/lib/portage/pym for modules. Does that dir have portage.py?

earlier versions used to look at /usr/lib/python2.[23]/site-packages, so you should have portage.py.

Lodd3r · n00b Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 2

thx man the problem is solved

ali3nx · Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:35 pm Post subject:

I have some very interesting news to report on this project... I have used the scripts here on a variety of systems, fedora, suse, slackware and a few other versios of redhat and i find that the version if python installed in most common fedora, slackware and suse system has a problem with gentoo portage. I ran the script and the install failed with missingos not found and emerge halting with python modules not being found. I merely built python-2.3.3.tbz2 on a system with a comparable cpu, wget the file from the server, extract python-2.3.3.tbz2 to / then cd /usr/bin && rm -f python && ln -s python2.3 python and re-run the script and it will work without a problem

I will post more on this very soon. I have done this on three different dedicated servers and it worked every time.
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sirro · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: mmm

axxackall · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:35 am Post subject: Re: mmm

devsk · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:09 am Post subject:

Is there no libc on cygwin? is that even possible? solaris doesn't have glibc either, but libc.so was enough for me to get portage working on solaris and install KDE 3.2 with it and it works pretty well.

skyfolly · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:21 pm Post subject:

man, this sounds complicated.
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uglyb0b · Apprentice Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Posts: 280

Bad idea. Installing portage on other distros makes the entire point of Gentoo, Portage, devoid. If it's on other distros then the inscentive to use gentoo is effectively removed. If you want portage, use Gentoo.
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mahir · l33t Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 725 Location: London

portage and urmpi

gentoo and mandrake.

i dont see the point in the argument..

or the debate even...

they are completely different..

like you said, the whole point go gentoo IS portage...

and the whole point to mandrake is what exactly?

you cant take urpmi and put it on gentoo (cos, well you could - but it wouldnt be worth it)

however you can take portage and more or less put it on CYGWIN (an extreme example, but it works and you get my point)

the reason why people use windows more then most other os's for desktop systems (apart from unfair tactics etc) is cos its efficient. its not FUN, but it works, (badly) but yea -
it works--

and well

rpm is mmmmmmmmmmmm lame
so lame, they had to add apt-get to it, to make it worth using
urmpi needs a console to work on anyway (from what i remember)
apt-get is ok, but
common
its APT-GET

apt-get install bla
compared too

emerge bla

if you can take portage and use it on other distro's

why arent we pushing it?

if you found an item of code, that workd for a peice of software, that made the whole use of that program and software easier, more secure and more efficient(cost-efficient even) wouldnt u share the wealth?

so portage is our wealth..

actually
somebody should start a poll

comparing effeciency of portage against other install systems..

like a benchmark for source-installtions between portage and apt-get and/or urpmi.
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uglyb0b · Apprentice Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Posts: 280