USB HID problem

creaker · l33t Joined: 14 Jul 2012 Posts: 651

Kernel doesn't recognize my usb input devices, neither keyboard nor mouse.
Keyboard works at BIOS and Grub stages but refuses to work when system booted.
Both devices are OK, they works fine at other machine. As well both works if I booting into liveCD at this machine.

Kernel config as well was copied from other machine, CONFIG_USB_HID option enabled : http://bpaste/show/574918

lsmod doesn't show any usb-hid related modules, even I loading them (uhci_hcd, ehci_hcd, xhci_hcd, usbhid) with modprobe.
lsusb shows only storage devices (usb stick and usb hard drive).

Any idea on what's going on here?

wraeth · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:13 am Post subject:

Can you paste the output of `grep USB /usr/src/linux/.config`.

Edit:
Sorry, missed that link in your post.

The only significant difference I can see in what you have enabled is that I have CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD_PCI=y, which is described as "OHCI support for PCI-bus USB controllers". Additionally, I prefer to build my USB {O,E,X}HCI drivers directly into the kernel, just in case...

creaker · l33t Joined: 14 Jul 2012 Posts: 651

creaker · l33t Joined: 14 Jul 2012 Posts: 651

So, I rebuilt kernel with CONFIG_USB_HID set to 'm' instead of 'y'.
dmesg shows that the usbhid module was loaded, I can remove and load it again, but still no luck: kernel doesn't recognize neither keyboard nor mouse.

Has anyone HID devices working with kernel 3.14.14?

Adel Ahmed · Veteran Joined: 21 Sep 2012 Posts: 1616

hmm here are some options that might need enabling:
config_hid_generic
config_usb_hid

Logicien · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:55 pm Post subject:

If not, you need to enable

VoidMage · Watchman Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 6196

Unless I'm missing something, there has been no need for CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX in several years.

tryn · Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:20 am Post subject:

creaker

I'm just wondering if you might need to do this. Since they work in the other modes that you mention.

wraeth · Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:28 am Post subject:

It can't hurt to do that, as the Xorg drivers do need to be built against the kernel. However, this will only affect the use of devices once within an X session - if you can't use your keyboard or mouse on the console, then rebuilding teh Xorg driver components won't fix it.

Additionally, you can complete this same action with `emerge @x11-module-rebuild`; otherwise, if specifying the packages explicitly (as you are doing), you should include the "--oneshot" or '-1' option for emerge - libraries and drivers generally shouldn't be added to your world file.

creaker · l33t Joined: 14 Jul 2012 Posts: 651

Guys, I have no any kind of xorg stuffs installed. Just kernel, grub and some very basic utilities like ntfs3g, usbtools, mc. Its going to be a headless setup. Just console, no more. I can operate this machine over ssh without any input device attached, but I'd like to know whats going on, where this problem arises from.

Adel Ahmed · Veteran Joined: 21 Sep 2012 Posts: 1616

I think in order to have a mouse in the terminal you need the gpm use flag, so just a shot in the dark here, why don't you emerge a package with the gpm use flag and try out the mouse, maybe it's just a missing use flag

jserink · Veteran Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 1023

creaker · l33t Joined: 14 Jul 2012 Posts: 651

Finally I got HID devices working using .config generated by 'make localmodconfig'.

jserink · Veteran Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 1023

Hi All:

Just to review, I lose my USB 2 ports when I load kernel 3.14.14.
I have looked into this in more detail:
1. The lsmod dumps from 1.14.14 and 3.12-21-r1 are exactly the same except for the order and the fact the freq_table is no longer in 3.14.14 as its now built right in.
2. Last night I tried this:

#
# USB Host Controller Drivers
#
CONFIG_USB_C67X00_HCD=m
CONFIG_USB_XHCI_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_XHCI_PLATFORM=m
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_ROOT_HUB_TT=y
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_TT_NEWSCHED=y
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_PCI=y
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD_PLATFORM=y

In my 3.12.21-r1 this lists out as:
#
# USB Host Controller Drivers
#
CONFIG_USB_C67X00_HCD=m
CONFIG_USB_XHCI_HCD=m
CONFIG_USB_XHCI_PLATFORM=m
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=m
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_ROOT_HUB_TT=y
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_TT_NEWSCHED=y
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_PCI=m
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD_PLATFORM=m

I short I'm building in the EHCI (USB2) and xHCI(USB3) support directly into the kernel rather than have them as modules.

Verdict:
No change, still no USB 2 support.

Staying with 3.12-21-r1 for now.

Cheers,
john

tomtom69 · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:21 pm Post subject:

What kind of USB host controller do you have?
Can you post the output of "lspci"?

jserink · Veteran Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 1023

tomtom69 · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:48 am Post subject:

Seems that you have 3 USB host controllers in your system:
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04)
0a:00.0 USB controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 04)
It looks like at least one of them is not working (probably the Intel ones, because USB 3.0 ports which are handled by the NEC are working).
Do you see any difference in the output of
dmesg | grep -i usb
between kernel 3.12 and 3.14?

Roman_Gruber · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:27 pm Post subject:

My working solution is to fire up livecd with the newest kernel and run lsusb, lspci, lsmod.

than compare and write down the modules and devices.

with this information you can easily build your kernel

another way is to build a genkernel kernel and check if it works there. but it sounds to me that you lack some important kernel or userspace modules related to your hardware

jserink · Veteran Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 1023

jserink · Veteran Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 1023

tomtom69 · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:30 am Post subject:

Really quite different.
What is noticeable is the order of loading the modules:
Kernel 3.12 loads ohci (NEC) and uhci (intel) first (can not be seen in dmesg any more), then xhci, then ehci
Kernel 3.14 loads ehci first, then ohci and uhci, then xhci

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/various-regressions-with-kernel-3-14-%5B3%7C4%7C5%5D-4175506827/
describes a quite similar problem.

AFAIK ohci and uhci need to be loaded first, because enumeration starts using the USB1 protocol layer.
But I do not know exactly how to influence the order of module loading. One thing you could try would be to compile all the *hci drivers as modules, disable auto-loading them and load them manually in the right order (ohci and uhci first).

jserink · Veteran Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 1023

Hi All:

I tried the following in 3.14.14:
Compiled EHCI, USB2 support, directly into the kernel,
Compiled xHCI, USB3, as a module....

Made no difference.

Just as a note,
<*> OHCI HCD (USB 1.1) support │ │
<*> OHCI support for PCI-bus USB controllers │ │
{*} Generic OHCI driver for a platform device │ │
<*> UHCI HCD (most Intel and VIA) support

Are built directly into the kernel.

Cheers,
john

jserink · Veteran Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 1023

Hi All:

I have been using kernel 3.12.21 since 3.14.14 came out as using 3.14.14 I had no USB2 support on my laptop.
I have just configured and compiled kernel 3.16.5 and it runs fine, all ok.

Cheers,
John