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jhon987
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 Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:41 am Post subject: Emerging GNOME without modemmanager use flag |
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Hi,
I'm using KDE by default (so I use kde profile) but I want to play around with GNOME, the thing is kde works well without modemanager, ppp, ipv6 and other unnecessary packages which is part of the reason why I love using Gentoo - I can exclude the superfluous.
However when I try to emerge gnome here's what I get:
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# emerge -aD gnome-base/gnome-light
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy ">=net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8[modemmanager]".
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.10.1_pre20141101::gentoo (Change USE: +modemmanager, this change violates use flag constraints defined by net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.10.1_pre20141101: 'modemmanager? ( ppp ) exactly-one-of ( nss gnutls ) exactly-one-of ( dhclient dhcpcd )')
(dependency required by "gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.12.1-r1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "gnome-base/gnome-light-3.12.0" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "gnome-base/gnome-light" [argument]) |
it would be easiest to just use these use flags yet, since this is Gentoo, I'd rather not too. I've tried creating /etc/portage/profile/use.mask and set it there but to no avail, I also tried specifically masking net-misc/networkmanager but also didn't work.
is there any way this could be done? (is there a way to mask specific use flag?) |
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jhon987
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| Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for replying, however, this doesn't works in this case, check out the code I posted... |
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flipnode
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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If i'm not mistaken you need to switch your profile to the Desktop profile
| Code: | | #eselect profile list |
Then
| Code: | | #eselect profile set <num here for Desktop profile> |
Then run your command again for gnome
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flipnode
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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The other option if you do not want to change your profile is to do the following
Modify
| Code: | /etc/portage/make.conf
add to USE="dbus gtk gnome qt4 kde"
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gt4 and kde are probably set by your profile already
then
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emerge gnome-base/gnome-light
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jhon987
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| flipnode wrote: | The other option if you do not want to change your profile is to do the following
Modify
| Code: | /etc/portage/make.conf
add to USE="dbus gtk gnome qt4 kde"
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gt4 and kde are probably set by your profile already
then
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emerge gnome-base/gnome-light
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My friend, you're missing the point here. I know I can emerge GNOME. I just don't want it to bring modemmanager along with it!
it seems though as if modemmanager (for some unknown reason) has been hardcoded as a dependency for gnome, see what happens when I remove it after I've already emerged gnome:
| Code: | # emerge -Ca modemmanager
* This action can remove important packages! In order to be safer, use
* `emerge -pv --depclean <atom>` to check for reverse dependencies before
* removing packages.
>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
net-misc/modemmanager
selected: 1.4.0
protected: none
omitted: none
All selected packages: =net-misc/modemmanager-1.4.0
>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
Would you like to unmerge these packages? [Yes/No]
>>> Waiting 5 seconds before starting...
>>> (Control-C to abort)...
>>> Unmerging in: 5 4 3 2 1
>>> Unmerging (1 of 1) net-misc/modemmanager-1.4.0...
>>> needed sym /usr/lib64/libmm-glib.so.0
>>> needed obj /usr/lib64/libmm-glib.so.0.2.0
* Updating desktop mime database ...
* Updating shared mime info database ...
* Updating icons cache ... [ ok ]
* GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
!!! existing preserved libs:
>>> package: net-misc/modemmanager-1.4.0
* - /usr/lib64/libmm-glib.so.0
* - /usr/lib64/libmm-glib.so.0.2.0
* used by /usr/bin/gnome-control-center (gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.12.1-r1)
* used by /usr/lib64/NetworkManager/libnm-wwan.so (net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.10.1_pre20141101)
* used by /usr/libexec/geoclue (app-misc/geoclue-2.1.10)
Use emerge @preserved-rebuild to rebuild packages using these libraries |
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flipnode
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| jhon987 wrote: | | flipnode wrote: | The other option if you do not want to change your profile is to do the following
Modify
| Code: | /etc/portage/make.conf
add to USE="dbus gtk gnome qt4 kde"
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gt4 and kde are probably set by your profile already
then
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emerge gnome-base/gnome-light
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My friend, you're missing the point here. I know I can emerge GNOME. I just don't want it to bring modemmanager along with it!
it seems though as if modemmanager (for some unknown reason) has been hardcoded as a dependency for gnome, see what happens when I remove it after I've already emerged gnome:
| Code: | # emerge -Ca modemmanager
* This action can remove important packages! In order to be safer, use
* `emerge -pv --depclean <atom>` to check for reverse dependencies before
* removing packages.
>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
net-misc/modemmanager
selected: 1.4.0
protected: none
omitted: none
All selected packages: =net-misc/modemmanager-1.4.0
>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
Would you like to unmerge these packages? [Yes/No]
>>> Waiting 5 seconds before starting...
>>> (Control-C to abort)...
>>> Unmerging in: 5 4 3 2 1
>>> Unmerging (1 of 1) net-misc/modemmanager-1.4.0...
>>> needed sym /usr/lib64/libmm-glib.so.0
>>> needed obj /usr/lib64/libmm-glib.so.0.2.0
* Updating desktop mime database ...
* Updating shared mime info database ...
* Updating icons cache ... [ ok ]
* GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
!!! existing preserved libs:
>>> package: net-misc/modemmanager-1.4.0
* - /usr/lib64/libmm-glib.so.0
* - /usr/lib64/libmm-glib.so.0.2.0
* used by /usr/bin/gnome-control-center (gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.12.1-r1)
* used by /usr/lib64/NetworkManager/libnm-wwan.so (net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.10.1_pre20141101)
* used by /usr/libexec/geoclue (app-misc/geoclue-2.1.10)
Use emerge @preserved-rebuild to rebuild packages using these libraries |
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My bad.
The modemmanager depend is being used by the following packages. As we dig deeper here.
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app-misc / geoclue : A geoinformation D-Bus service
gnome-base / gnome-control-center : GNOME's main interface to configure various aspects of the desktop
gnome-extra / cinnamon-control-center : Cinnamons's main interface to configure various aspects of the desktop
gnome-extra / nm-applet : GNOME applet for NetworkManager
net-misc / networkmanager : Universal network configuration daemon for laptops, desktops, servers and virtualization hosts |
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dlaor
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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It looks to me as if, as you have already noticed from emerge's output, networkmanager and modemmanager are hard dependencies of gnome-control-center, which is itself a fundamental part of gnome.
The commit
http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/gnome-base/gnome-control-center/files/gnome-control-center-3.12.1-optional-r1.patch?revision=1.1&view=markup
shows that Gentoo's gnome-team has tried to make these managers optional, but that it turned out to be too hard; they write
| Quote: | Dropped mm from this revision of the patch since it appears more
complicated than ever to split it from the network panel. |
In conclusion, the answer to jhon987's original question seems to be: "It is not possible at this moment. It might be possible, but you will have to do some work."
Hope this helps. |
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jhon987
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Thank you! I had a feeling this would be the final answer, though I've decided to give it a shot anyways...
Also thanks Gentoo devs who at least tried, perhaps they'll succeed in a later version.
If I may add, this is my personal opinion I wish to express:
You know, up to now, I wasn't really involved or took any side with what's going on around GNOME and systemd recently, but lately I've found there are 2 things which really discourage my support in either of which.
Namely, when they make (IMHO) silly decisions as the one in question on this thread, or when systemd forcibly make you have ipv6 enabled in kernel (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7394544.html) - this kind of things really gets to me, it takes all the fun and the well deserved satisfaction out of running Linux, Gentoo in particular, since what's the point in going through all the trouble of learning a new system (Linux) and go through the tedious process of installing / compiling Gentoo when you can't control what stays in and what goes out  |
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