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Yossarian
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 Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 9:16 pm Post subject: New desktop suggestions. |
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I'm wanting to design a new desktop for myself. I've used a good bit of different DE and WM but I haven't found anything that I like as much as my kde. I have tried:
Kde
XFCE4
Fluxbox
Enlightenment
Kahakai
As you can see I haven't tried gnome, although it's looking more and more attractive. What I want is something that is fast. I like the speed of fluxbox and kahakai but some features I want seem to be missing. One is that I like to be able to set a window to always be on top, for if I'm watching a video while I browse the web, or if I want a terminal on top. I didn't have that option in XFCE4 and for some reason it seemed to run away with the cpu and memory sometimes on my system. Kahakai seems to have that option but fluxbox seems to be missing it. Another thing I like is that when iconified windows go into a bar rather than a little window like in enlightenment. This is one thing I liked about fluxbox.
I like kde but the simplicity of just a WM looks nice sometimes. Plus I like the speed of a light weight desktop. Sometimes kde just feels bulky, but I am anxious for when 3.2 comes out.
I've thought about giving gnome a try but I don't really like nautilus as a file manager. I guess I could still use konq or something else. I like the look of gnome. It seems a little more simple than kde. I guess that's where the KISS thing came from.
I guess what the ideal choice would be is a lightweight window manager with an icon bar that I can set windows to always be on top. Maybe if I could use the gnome panel and bar with Kahakai or something. Can't gdesklets and karamba give you a bar?
So any suggestions are welcome. Any at all.
Thank you.
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(I know this is quite unconstructive and not very helpful, but...)
Wow you've tried 'em all! 
j/k with ya buddy
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My suggestion is to just try GNOME. It is however, a full desktop environment, and you may not like that. If you don't like it, just switch to something else =)
Remember though, that you always mix and match.
No stay on top in xfce4? No problem! Just run kwin on it. KDE feeling bulky? No problem! Just run openbox3 with it, and compile KDE with DO_NOT_COMPILE to not install any cruft you don't need.
If you're waiting for KDE 3.2, the first beta is coming out early this week. The biggest changes aren't necessarily in the desktop environment though, but in the apps. Although there are nice little things like many control panels getting redesigned and konq's menus getting a rundown.
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Yossarian
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Hehe, yeah actually when I looked at my list. I was thinking, "I haven't really tried that many at all considering the plethora of WM out there." That's the cool thing about linux though.
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I think the number of WM you have tried is inversely proportional to the amount of work you do BTW I have tried quite a few more than you  . |
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Ziljian
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 1:10 am Post subject: Re: New desktop suggestions. |
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| Yossarian wrote: | Maybe if I could use the gnome panel and bar with Kahakai or something. Can't gdesklets and karamba give you a bar?
So any suggestions are welcome. Any at all. |
Many folks use Gnome-panel with Kahakai, this topic was recently discussed in the following thread -
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=101315 |
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RdsArts
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There's always Rox desktop.
No, seriously. Give it a try. You might be shocked. |
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| shm wrote: | My suggestion is to just try GNOME. It is however, a full desktop environment, and you may not like that. If you don't like it, just switch to something else =)
Remember though, that you always mix and match.
No stay on top in xfce4? No problem! Just run kwin on it. KDE feeling bulky? No problem! Just run openbox3 with it, and compile KDE with DO_NOT_COMPILE to not install any cruft you don't need.
If you're waiting for KDE 3.2, the first beta is coming out early this week. The biggest changes aren't necessarily in the desktop environment though, but in the apps. Although there are nice little things like many control panels getting redesigned and konq's menus getting a rundown. |
This is a good way to go. I run xfce4 but didn't like the file manager or the term so I use gnomes. You might want to try kahamai with xfce4. They all generally work fine this way.
If you like xfce4, which I do, just edit startxfce4 to open fluxbox or whatever.
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Yossarian
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Thanks Guys! Every single one of your posts have been really, really helpful, and have given me some useful insights into my questions.
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Linus uses KDE, so we should all just use KDE as well
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: New desktop suggestions. |
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| Yossarian wrote: | | One [feature] that I [would like is] to be able to set a window to always be on top, for if I'm watching a video while I browse the web, or if I want a terminal on top. Another thing I like is that when iconified windows go into a bar. |
Kahakai does have the 'always on top' feature and, for a bar, there's a plethora of panels available which offer said functionality - fspanel, pypanel, perl panel, gnome bar (a gDesklet) or it's super karamba equivalent, the gnome panel or kicker.
It's not like you're short of choice. 
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| Evangelion wrote: | | Linus uses KDE, so we should all just use KDE as well |
note: hook's a KDE user from 1.x series on
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