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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:01 am    Post subject: hang on caching service dependencies? Reply with quote

I have been trying for the past few days to install gentoo on my machine.

some specs to start:
athlon xp 2000+ processor
512MB ram
120GB maxtor hard drive
abit mobo
nvidia geforce2 pro
3com 3c905c nic
turtle beach santa cruz sound card
usb keyboard/mouse (those seem to be recognized ok)

installing gentoo from liveCD with stage3-athlon-xp-20030910.tar.gz stage 3 tarball, following the guide located at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml to the T, after completing everything and rebooting, it hangs on 'caching service dependencies'. By hang I mean lock up, the 'status' spinner stops moving and the machine becomes unresponsive.

I've used the hard drive for about a year, including just recently with windows, so it should be fine.

Someone in #gentoo on efnet suggested that I do 'depscan.sh' after booting from the liveCD and chrooting into my new home, which works almost instantly there, but doesn't affect rebooting. He also suggested to use 'init=/bin/bash' at boot time to load up into single user mode, which got me to a command prompt but I was unable run the depscan.sh script because it said the filesystem was read-only. I ran 'mount' and it showed /dev/hda3 mounted to / rw, but it wouldn't let me. Anyone else having this problem? Maybe I need to get a newer liveCD? (or older).

Thanks in advance :)

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone? :\
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm having this same problem ATM, so if you found a solution let me know. (And if I find one, I'll be sure to post it here.)

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm going to just try the GRP from the liveCDs. I haven't had a chance to yet though, work has been crazy this week :)

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 3:14 pm    Post subject: I'm having the same problem Reply with quote

I'm also having this problem.

If I boot from the liveCD and mount my installation, I can run /sbin/depscan.sh without any problems.

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is your guys HW config? Maybe there is a common theme in our setups.

I've got:

Athlon XP 2100+
MSI NForce2 Motherboard
512mb PC-2700
Asus Geforce4 Ti 4200 128mb AGP Video Card
80gb Seagate HDD (Windows Drive)
20gb Maxtor HDD (Linux Drive)
Sony DRU-500A CD-RW/DVD-+RW
Sony 12x CD-RW
Creative SB Live! (emu10k1)

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm installing on:

- VIA EPIA M-10000 mb (integrated NIC, sound, and graphics)
- 512 MB ram
- Hauppauge pvr-250 capture card
- Western Digital 120GB drive

I started the install from stage 1.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pinpointed the problem with the hang on caching service deps. For some reason the system hangs when probing 3c59x NIC module... I have a 3com 3c905-C ethernet card. After I fixed that part, it was hanging on starting up the hotplug service. Disabling that allowed me to boot gentoo, but I had no network, or hotplug support.

I tried to modprobe 3c59x at the command line and it hung again.

I tried installing the GRP that came with the liveCDs I used, same problems. Is it a problem with the liveCD maybe? or maybe something with my hardware? It all works when booting from CD, but not when booting from the installation.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I gave up and did a reinstall. The main difference being I didn't try using genkernel at all. For some reason my Nforce MCP Network controller isn't working yet, but hopefully I can resolve that elsewhere in the forums.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get the same problem.

My hardware is VIA EPIA M10000
Dxr3 card
512MB ram
60GB
60GB
80GB hard drives
Samsung 304 combo drive
Fish tank (small, on it's side - for housing computer in)

Kernel is ac-sources (2.4.22-ac1 and ac4 - neither of which work).

However, it does work fine on ac-sources 2.4.22-rc2-ac3 so I stick to that.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've taken the Dxr3 out now. Still doesn't boot past the aforementioned stage though.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried a complete new install, from a different drive, from stage 1. It still doesn't progress beyond "Caching service dependencies...".
This is incredible. Surely it can't have escaped everybody's attention that the ac-sources kernel that is currently being offered simply does not and cannot work? There is obviously no way forward.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian Tindale wrote:
This is incredible. Surely it can't have escaped everybody's attention that the ac-sources kernel that is currently being offered simply does not and cannot work? There is obviously no way forward.

Hey, don't talk trash about my buddy Alan Cox. :P
ac-sources works great on all of my machines, and on yours too (I think). It looks like the problem is somewhere in your init scripts.

Try passing "rw init=/bin/bash" to the kernel when you boot to bypass the init scripts.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this has just started happening to me, too. I emerged the new version of Abiword (2.0.1), and after the emerge, it just hung on "Caching service dependancies..." for hours. Normally that takes a few seconds. I ^C'ed out after a couple of hours, and tried something else which calls /sbin/depscan.sh - I added SSHD to my default runlevel with rc-update add sshd default. Again, it hung on caching service dependancies. For hours. So I killed that, too. Now, when I try running sshd, I get the following error:

Code:
 /etc/init.d/sshd start
 * Dependency info is missing!  Please run
 
 *   # /sbin/depscan.sh
 
 * to fix this.
 * Could not get dependency info for "sshd"!
 * Please run:
 
 *   # /sbin/depscan.sh
 
 * to fix this.
 * Could not get dependency info for "sshd"!
 * Please run:
 
 *   # /sbin/depscan.sh
 
 * to fix this.
 * Starting sshd...                                                       [ ok ]


As you can see, the SSH server starts anyway, and it works fine, too (Abiword also works fine by the way). I'm just rather worried that other services won't work, and that I've just been lucky with sshd.

NOTE: This is nothing to do with an installation. My gentoo system has been running absolutely fine for over 6 months, with no sign of problems. This just started happening last night.

So anyway, does anybody have any idea whats going wrong here?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am also having this problem after emerge nforce-net. I've had Gentoo installed for four days or so and haven't gotten past this step.

When I unemerge the drivers, I get to a prompt without freezing. A conflict of some kind, maybe?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:03 pm    Post subject: Similar problem here Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm having a similar problem on my PC at work. But it happens only sometime (not all the time) at the end of an emerge, most of the time when caching service dependencies. The computer simply freeze and I have to turn the machine off and on to have the HD led turned off, pressing reset is not enough because it will hang on the disk initialization on the bios. It never happens during the emerge, always at the end. When it freeze, sometime I can use the keyboard but nothing is working.

I can do a depscan.sh without problem on a shell and sometime I can successfully do an emerge.

My PC is a Dell Dimension 4100, P3-800Mhz, 256Megs RAM, WD 20Gigs, Matrox G400.

On my two PC at home, its working fine.

Its happened on kernel 2.4.23 and 2.6.0-test11. I though it could be an hardware problem but everything is fine except at the end of an emerge.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 5:07 pm    Post subject: My problem seem to be solved Reply with quote

Hi,

I finally solved my problem. By doing this, I realize that some files from my glibc were corrupted:

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qpkg -v -c glibc


I was not even able to reemerge it since some programs were trying to access corrupted files from glibc (ex.: msgfmt).

I asked a friend to generate a tbz2 package of glibc for me. I then reinstall everything from a gentoo boot disk.

After rebooting, I've been able to reemerge glibc myself and everything seem to be fine so far. :D
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