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Klaus Meier
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 Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:15 am Post subject: Ist Portage kaputt? |
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| Seit Samstag gibt es keine Updates mehr. Bei einem emerge --sync wird aber nichts synchronisiert, sondern jedesmal portage komplett geladen. |
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xtrace
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Hallo,
hast du einen festen SYNC Server hinterlegt? Wenn ja, mal einen anderen versucht?
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Klaus Meier
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Funktioniert es denn bei dir? Nein, ich habe keinen festen Server eingetragen. Und auf dieser Seite ändert sich auch nichts:
https://packages.gentoo.org/ |
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xtrace
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Bei mir läuft alles ohne Probleme. Ich nutze die aktuelle stable Version von Portage.
Habe gestern Abend noch Updates gefahren. |
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Klaus Meier
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Und die waren aktuell? Also von gestern? Wenn du eine Woche lang nicht aktualisiert hast, dann ist das ja klar. |
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Yamakuzure
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Also ich benutze als Fetch-Methode "webrsync", und heute war das aktuellste Snapshot "portage-20150808.tar.xz". Das muss aber natürlich noch nichts heißen, sind ja nur drei Tage.
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xtrace
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| Klaus Meier wrote: | | Und die waren aktuell? Also von gestern? Wenn du eine Woche lang nicht aktualisiert hast, dann ist das ja klar. |
Kann ich gerne heute Abend nachsehen. Zur Zeit habe ich keinen Zugriff auf mein Portage. |
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Klaus Meier
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| Yamakuzure wrote: | | Also ich benutze als Fetch-Methode "webrsync", und heute war das aktuellste Snapshot "portage-20150808.tar.xz". Das muss aber natürlich noch nichts heißen, sind ja nur drei Tage. |
Aber ein normales emerge --sync lädt bei mir seit Sonntag jedesmal portage vollständig. Das heißt für mich dann doch schon etwas. |
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Klaus Meier
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| Sehe gerade, es kommen wieder Updates. Das Datum vom webrsync-Snapshot ist 20150810. Aber das System verhält sich so, als hätte ich portage komplett neu installiert, kein Update. Na mal sehen, ob es sich morgen erledigt hat. |
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xtrace
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| Sorry, da OT: Wird eigentlich noch Paludis genutzt? |
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Mr_Maniac
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Bei mir sah es gestern oder vorgestern auch so aus, als ob mein PC den Portage-Tree komplett neu geladen hätte.
Daraufhin habe ich das Datum auf meinem Server überprüft (ich habe einen kleinen Server, welcher 1x am Tag synct und dann als Sync-Server für meinen PC und evtl. Laptop dient), welches aber in Ordnung war.
Bisher ist dies nur ein Mal passiert, aber ich halte die Augen mal offen. Vielleicht hat ja irgendein rsync-Server einfach alle Portage-Dateien mit einem aktuellen Änderungs-Timestamp versehen...
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franzf
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Infra hat portage auf git umgestellt. Evtl. gab es kleine Probleme, alte Konfigurationen zu unterstützen.
Sagt nach dem Sync eselect news irgendwas? |
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toralf
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Die Seite ist aber schon länger etwas hakelig. |
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Klaus Meier
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Gleiche Situation wie gestern. Es wird wieder alles komplett geladen.
Ok, ist bekannt und in Arbeit. https://infra-status.gentoo.org/ |
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franzf
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Würde ja meine Vermutung bestätigen.
(Und das Forum nervt langsam wirklich... Mühsam geschriebene Beiträge verschwinden im Nivana, weil die Session viel zu schnell abläuft; Zwei Suchvorgänge können nicht schnell hintereinander abgesetzt werden, ein Anpassen der Suchbegriffe ist erst nach zig Sekunden möglich; und jetzt kann ich auch plötzlich nicht mehr schnell auf einen zweiten Beitrag antworten. Das waren locker 15 Sekunden, und trotzdem wird meine Antwort hier geblockt - und das ganze Formular ist futsch... Echt... GRRRRR!) |
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miroR
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Ich schpreche nur ein wenig Deutch,. und schlecht.
Aber ich finde dieses topic nur in Deutch.
Ich see:
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-rw-r--r-- 1 ukrainian ukrainian 67413520 2015-08-08 02:45 portage-20150807.tar.xz
-rw-r--r-- 1 ukrainian ukrainian 55 2015-08-08 02:55
portage-20150807.tar.xz.umd5sum
-rw-r--r-- 1 ukrainian ukrainian 58 2015-08-08 02:55
portage-20150807.tar.xz.md5sum
-rw-r--r-- 1 ukrainian ukrainian 819 2015-08-08 02:55
portage-20150807.tar.xz.gpgsig
-rw-r--r-- 1 ukrainian ukrainian 67430092 2015-08-09 02:45 portage-20150808.tar.xz
-rw-r--r-- 1 ukrainian ukrainian 55 2015-08-09 02:55
portage-20150808.tar.xz.umd5sum
-rw-r--r-- 1 ukrainian ukrainian 58 2015-08-09 02:55
portage-20150808.tar.xz.md5sum
-rw-r--r-- 1 ukrainian ukrainian 819 2015-08-09 02:55
portage-20150808.tar.xz.gpgsig
-rw-r--r-- 1 ukrainian ukrainian 57900952 2015-08-13 06:15 portage-20150812.tar.xz
-rw-r--r-- 1 ukrainian ukrainian 55 2015-08-13 06:25
portage-20150812.tar.xz.umd5sum
-rw-r--r-- 1 ukrainian ukrainian 58 2015-08-13 06:25
portage-20150812.tar.xz.md5sum
-rw-r--r-- 1 ukrainian ukrainian 819 2015-08-13 06:25
portage-20150812.tar.xz.gpgsig
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Keine 201509 201510 201511.
201512 da.
Felicht alles ist in ordnung jetzt mit iinfra.
Ich muss sagen. Ich habe ein local mirror, für Air-Gap install:
Air-Gapped Gentoo Install, Tentative
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268.html
So nur emerge-webrsync, keine emerge --sync ich mache.
Ich kann nich in Deutch fragen, aber in English:
Any other consequences, issues, what not, to be aware of, concerning this issue?
Danke. Grüss! |
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Klaus Meier
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| At the moment you can use portage. The only problem is, that you had to wait a long time, because emerge --sync don't sync the tree. emerge --sync do a full download everythime. But after this you can work with portage without any problem. |
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py-ro
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:52 am Post subject: |
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It only loads all manifests, still not a full sync  |
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miroR
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Also porage is ein wenig kaput, jetzt?
Canst jemand links geben, wo mehr ist gesagt?
So portage is a bit broken, at this time?
Can somebody give us links. where to learn more about it?
Tut mir so leid! I'm so sad for this.
Nur English (ich weiss zu wenig Deutch):
What is is? Lack of resources? And no sponsors for probably the best FOSS Linux in the world? Makes me so sad... If I could, I would support financially. But I'm getting poorer by the day myself... |
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franzf
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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You could try to move to gentoos git repo:
from my repos.conf:
| Code: | [gentoo]
location = /var/repositories/gentoo
sync-type = git
sync-uri = https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo
auto-sync = true |
(There should be an official git repo, too, but I used the git repo already before it was official, and that was stored on github, so it was easier for me to "switch" when git went official) |
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miroR
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| franzf wrote: | You could try to move to gentoos git repo:
from my repos.conf:
| Code: | [gentoo]
location = /var/repositories/gentoo
sync-type = git
sync-uri = https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo
auto-sync = true |
(There should be an official git repo, too, but I used the git repo already before it was official, and that was stored on github, so it was easier for me to "switch" when git went official) |
(Sorry for my late replying.)
Seems, generally, like a fine option.
But I use only emerge-webrsync, which is the safest method. It was the recommended method when I reinstalled Gentoo maybe a year ago, maybe longer. Is it not anymore?
For maintenance of my Air-Gapped system, it's only emerge-webrsync that I can really trust. Everything signed and nothing done with the open internet connection, let alone present, but not even the system ever connects...
Aber Ich habe Deutche sprache sehr gerne. Nicht English.
Enough of Anglo dominance! If only! Everything is in English, and everybody goes English... More diversity! When will this stop!
(But do remember that it was French that everybody spoke, a few centuries back... And it was only Latin, the precursor of Italian, some two millenia ago...)...
Keine zeit für lernen... No time for learning... But I went and tried to figure out what the meaning of:
| franzf wrote: |
"der mac dennoch wesen geil"
Wolfram von Eschenbach, Parzival (Buch 1, Z. 7).
Ein frühes Statement gegen Windows.
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and searched DuckDuckgo.com (I hate and don't use Google the Schmoog)... I found:
http://www3.nd.edu/~gantho/anth164-353/Wolfram164-175.html
where the verse is there, but not in translation.
franzf, just the verse, what it means, and how is it against M$ Windoze?
Since little extra time here, I thought there was a discussion somewhere about this, or a more exhaustive report on what is going on and why/how the problems arose.... Anybody knows more? Links?
Danke! Grüss! |
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franzf
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| miroR wrote: | | franzf wrote: |
"der mac dennoch wesen geil"
Wolfram von Eschenbach, Parzival (Buch 1, Z. 7).
Ein frühes Statement gegen Windows.
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and searched DuckDuckgo.com (I hate and don't use Google the Schmoog)... I found:
http://www3.nd.edu/~gantho/anth164-353/Wolfram164-175.html
where the verse is there, but not in translation.
franzf, just the verse, what it means, and how is it against M$ Windoze? |
[OT]
Well, it's just a joke. Part of it is that Wolfram von Eschenbach died long ago. The language people were speaking was not the German we are used to today. Many weird words That's the other part of the joke: it's just by chance that this specific sentence can still be understood today, but the meaning is completely different and (of course) just can't have anything to to with Mac or Windows - or computers at all.
If you look for an English translation it might be simply "Nevertheless the Mac was pretty cool!" (Der Mac war dennoch geil!), but, as I said, it's not what Eschenbach meant
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miroR
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| franzf wrote: | | miroR wrote: | | franzf wrote: |
"der mac dennoch wesen geil"
Wolfram von Eschenbach, Parzival (Buch 1, Z. 7).
Ein frühes Statement gegen Windows.
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and searched DuckDuckgo.com (I hate and don't use Google the Schmoog)... I found:
http://www3.nd.edu/~gantho/anth164-353/Wolfram164-175.html
where the verse is there, but not in translation.
franzf, just the verse, what it means, and how is it against M$ Windoze? |
[OT]
Well, it's just a joke. Part of it is that Wolfram von Eschenbach died long ago. The language people were speaking was not the German we are used to today. Many weird words That's the other part of the joke: it's just by chance that this specific sentence can still be understood today, but the meaning is completely different and (of course) just can't have anything to to with Mac or Windows - or computers at all.
If you look for an English translation it might be simply "Nevertheless the Mac was pretty cool!" (Der Mac war dennoch geil!), but, as I said, it's not what Eschenbach meant
[/OT] |
Thanks!
My late replying is because hay-fever threw me in bed where I've been most of the time.
Ich wirklich möchte einmal hier in Deutche Schprache in diesem forum reden und schreiben...
Danke! Grüss! |
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franzf
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| franzf wrote: | You could try to move to gentoos git repo:
from my repos.conf:
| Code: | [gentoo]
location = /var/repositories/gentoo
sync-type = git
sync-uri = https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo
auto-sync = true |
(There should be an official git repo, too, but I used the git repo already before it was official, and that was stored on github, so it was easier for me to "switch" when git went official) |
Small update on moving to git:
eix-users have to generate the cache themselves:
run egencache --repo=gentoo --update --update-use-local-desc after emerge --sync and before eix-update (or configure eix to do this automatically when running eix-sync); This took one hour for the first run, the next time it finished in ~ 1 minute; so syncing gentoo-repo now takes ~2 minutes instead of 5-10 minutes with rsync 
// edit:
Hossa!
There is /etc/portage/repo.postsync.d/example rename it, make it executable (chmod +x) and edit it to NOT exclude repo==gentoo. Also note egencache accepts "--jobs" option, adapt it to you processor-core-number. That really speeds up syncs alot! |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Small update on moving to git:
eix-users have to generate the cache themselves:
run egencache --repo=gentoo --update --update-use-local-desc after emerge --sync and before eix-update |
Ach, das ist der Unterschied! Ich nutze den | Quote: | | https://github.com/gentoo-mirror/gentoo |
Der ist ein Paar Minuten weniger aktuell, jedoch mit bereits generiertem Cache.
Thats the difference! I use the other "github gentoo-mirror" that is some minutes less up-to-date but with pre-generated cache.
@miroR: Здесь значит разница ! ... |
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