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ccosse Apprentice
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 171 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:34 am Post subject: Anyone know the biggest website running on Gentoo? |
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Hi, can anyone direct me to some big sites running on Gentoo?
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54681 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:37 am Post subject: |
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ccosse,
Gentoo runs on Gentoo :)
Why do yo ask? _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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ccosse Apprentice
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 171 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Hi Neddy,
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Quote: | Gentoo runs on Gentoo |
Oh yeah that would make sense.
Well, for my own info ... just to know.
And also so I can use it as a selling point when advocating to use Gentoo at work.
If amazon.com was running on Gentoo, for example, then you don't need to say anything more, sold!
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So, are there any other heavyweight icons of the internet running Gentoo?
Regards,
ccosse
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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ccosse,
I don't know of any.
There are a few publicly known large Gentoo deployments but off hand I don't recall what for.
There has been at least two written up for the gentoo website over the years. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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ccosse Apprentice
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, it would be interesting if there were some corpus of who-runs-which Linux, which server software, which framework, which hosting company ... all sorted by magnitude-of-site.
Do you think it would be bad advice for me to recommend that my employer, who has great ambitions, migrate from AWS + Ubuntu to Linode + Gentoo?
I was going to recommend going to Host Virtual, who I've used for a long time on account of the fact that they used to run a permanent ad for Gentoo hosting on the main Gentoo website front page (you probably recall) but they don't have load balancers, and everyone needs load balancers nowadays ... linode.com has some pretty good docs, btw, discussing various website scaling options. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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ccosse,
You need to be very careful recommending any source based distro for a production environment.
All the users I'm aware of that use Gentoo in production build and test their own binary packages, then deploy the tested binaries.
You really can't afford to have production down for a day or so, while you sort out an issue.
If the flexibility you get from Gentoo is worth more than the test burden in your use case, Gentoo may be the way to go.
What matters to production is that it works and its stable. Red Hat do the testing for you when you choose RHEL.
You do it when you choose Gentoo.
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This also means that all the production Gentoo deployments are different. Its probably not useful to know about Gentoo deployments. e.g.
Code: | www-servers/apache
Available versions: (2) 2.2.31 2.2.31-r1 2.4.23 (~)2.4.23-r1 2.4.23-r2 |
There are five versions of apache in the tree today. A gentoo deployment can be using any one of them, or even a version no longer in the tree. Its a user choice.
Then there are USE flags and apache modules.
With RHEL, you get what you get. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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ccosse Apprentice
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you Neddy, for the sound advice.
Wishing you an excellent day!
-Charles |
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Zucca Moderator
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 3848 Location: Rasi, Finland
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:34 am Post subject: |
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At least some parts of local (Finland) IT consumer magazine's web pages (and propably something else too) were run on Gentoo. The magazine rescently was sold to another publisher, so I don't know the status anymore. _________________ ..: Zucca :..
My gentoo installs: | init=/sbin/openrc-init
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ccosse Apprentice
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Zucca wrote: | At least some parts of local (Finland) IT consumer magazine's web pages (and propably something else too) were run on Gentoo. The magazine rescently was sold to another publisher, so I don't know the status anymore. |
Thanks for that, Zucca.
NeddySeagoon wrote: |
There are five versions of apache in the tree today. A gentoo deployment can be using any one of them, or even a version no longer in the tree. Its a user choice.
Then there are USE flags and apache modules. |
Although with virtualenvs, docker and 1-button cloning I guess reproducibility is not quite the issue it once was. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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ccosse,
Not with the same deployment, no reproducibility is never a problem.
If I list 10 large Gentoo users for web servicies (I can't) they could all be running different versions of Apache and all built with different USE flags.
It not useful to compare such an install base with a binary distro, where much of the choice has been made for you.
Gentoo is really only the portage package manager and the ebuild repository. Everything else is $UPSTREAM.
Think of Gentoo as a toolkit you use to to build your own distro. Everyone makes different choices. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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Jaglover Watchman
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 8291 Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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I recall a thread on FreeBSD forums, a few years ago. They had a Gentoo webserver and it was barely able to serve all requests. So they were thinking _upgrading_ it to the FreeBSD. They were shocked to find out FreeBSD performance was only half of Gentoo. Damn penguin, they said. _________________ My Gentoo installation notes.
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Wallsandfences Guru
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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I use gentoo for my small business (not IT-related).
The configuration is a gnome desktop and my current worldfile. It boots in 3 seconds or so, so this is not sufficient, cause making coffee and looking over snailmail takes much longer, so a daily update world is welcome.
I tried, but I can't live with anything else -- need this feeling of control... |
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kohina n00b
Joined: 21 Dec 2016 Posts: 10
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Jaglover wrote: | I recall a thread on FreeBSD forums, a few years ago. They had a Gentoo webserver and it was barely able to serve all requests. So they were thinking _upgrading_ it to the FreeBSD. They were shocked to find out FreeBSD performance was only half of Gentoo. Damn penguin, they said. |
Ahaha, this is indeed a feel good story... I may still be bitter from my failure to install FreeBSD on my server and opting to use OpenBSD instead but hey glad to see the linux team hold its own in the server segment against BSD. _________________ I was once surrounded by beautiful gentoo boxen but they've all withered away due to portagetic arrest (death resulting from portage failure). The atom, the core2duo, the athlon... may these brave souls find peace in the afterlife. |
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