TeX Live 2016 installer

mkdong · n00b Joined: 15 Jan 2017 Posts: 3

Hi everyone

I want to install the latest version of TeX Live package (2016 version).
However the latest version available in official portage tree is 2015-r1

I then tried to write a simple ebuild file which will invoke the TeX Live installer provided by tug.org, but I got confused how to set TEXDIR.
And I am also curious why ebuild doesn't use `chroot`(like in Arch) which can prevent a lot of path configuration.

Anyone has good idea how to get the latest TeX Live package using portage?

Thanks in advance

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mkdong · n00b Joined: 15 Jan 2017 Posts: 3

mkdong · n00b Joined: 15 Jan 2017 Posts: 3

@mv. Thank you for your reply. And maybe I should stick with the 2015 for now.

ct85711 · Veteran Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1791

I suspect 2017 will be released in a couple months, so I wouldn't worry too much more on 2016 version....

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ct85711 · Veteran Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1791

oh, I agree mv in my doubts if 2017 will even see any more activity than 2016 did. I've been noticing that general maintenance has been going down hill for a while on packages, with the exception for systemd related ones. Anymore, this is more discouraging than anything else that devs are not bothering to care anymore. Maybe after 2017 I'll decide if I will install that version out of portage or make a ebuild to install it (it's not going to use the typical of unbundling dependencies and stuff, more of everything in one).

Wallsandfences · Guru Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 378

This is a pity because tex is one of the strongest arguments for using linux and the coolest program ever written (or is there another prgram that is no longer worked on because 'it's finished' and still up to date?) from a programmer with style, attitude and humanity. Please those of you who are capable don't let it slip away!

ct85711 · Veteran Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1791

Oh, texlive isn't dieing off as upstream is still working on it and still quite active. Right now, it is more of the devs here either lost interest or don't have time to work on remaking the ebuilds. Now there is several packages that can be classified on not being worked on because it works; though TexLive is not one. Going through the release notes, there isn't too big of changed for the 2016 version, except on the LuaTex side and a little on the PdfTex end.

Wallsandfences · Guru Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 378

Yes, I'm aware the ball is in our field. But since gentoo is my favorite way bundling gnu/linux (by a big margin) ....

mv · Watchman Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 6780

John R. Graham · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:34 pm Post subject:

Well, what do you know: texlive-2015 just went stable and texlive-2016 is in the tree in testing branch.

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ExecutorElassus · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:49 pm Post subject:

It did! And I get a bunch of bizarre blockers:

John R. Graham · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:05 pm Post subject:

Portage is a little bit broken regarding some types of dependency resolution right now. Try adding --backtrack=30 to your emerge command line.

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ExecutorElassus · Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:54 am Post subject:

No joy. Tried a very specific merge of texlive packages, got this:

ct85711 · Veteran Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1791

it appears, texlive-mathextra is holding you up, and appears that that package either hasn't been updated or something. So try removing that package and try again.

ExecutorElassus · Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:32 am Post subject:

nope

ExecutorElassus · Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:47 am Post subject:

Update: it turns out I have to remove all the texlive-lang[lang] packages and reinstall them manually (so, texlive-langenglish, texlive-langgerman, etc.), as well as texlive-mathextra, texlive-xetex, and texlive-latex. Perhaps one issue is that texlive-mathextra (and maybe some others) seem to have been replaced with texlive-mathscience.

In any case, is this an issue that should be reported? This seems like pretty severe inability to resolve dependencies.

Cheers,

EE

John R. Graham · Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:01 am Post subject:

It's among a known class of issues. If you search Bugzilla, I think you'll find several representative bugs already present. When you reinstalled the language packages, I hope you used --oneshot; otherwise, you've set yourself up for future issues. Regardless of what you did just now, you can check your world set for cruft with:

albright · Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:55 pm Post subject:

see bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606730

though painful, it is easy to work around the blockers
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ExecutorElassus · Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:10 pm Post subject:

yeah, I just ended up doing it manually.

Incidentally, texlive-langlatin and texlive-langdutch are still both on the 2012 version, and texlive-xetex will fail to build if they're installed (the 2016 versions install a hyphenation file under /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/hyph-utf-8/loadhyph/loadhyph-[xx].tex (where [xx] is the language code, in this case nl and la respectively).

This appears to be a problem with upstream: the host site doesn't show those packages being updated, either.

Cheers,

EE

thekraken · n00b Joined: 08 Jan 2011 Posts: 11 Location: New Jersey

I followed the instructions in this thread and manually unmerged all the culprit packages, but now texlive-2016 is trying to install both texlive-langgerman-2015 and 2016, causing a hard block:

steveL · Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:09 am Post subject:

thekraken, I think it's that texlive-langgerman-2016 is unstable, so needs to be in package.keywords.