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robvr Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 96 Location: Best, The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:32 pm Post subject: virtualbox can't create/register machines |
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I'm trying to get Virtualbox working on, admittedly, a fairly old host machine (32 bit athlon). This isn't working so far, but the failure mode suggests the age of the machine has nothing to do with the problem..
I can create and run a virtual machine from the GUI management tool. However, once I close that tool, the machine is gone. All the files are still there, but it just doesn't show up anymore. So, I cleaned out all the relevant files, and tried from the command line. Same result..
Code: | rob@graph2:~$rm -rf .config/VirtualBox/
rob@graph2:~$rm -rf .VirtualBox/
rob@graph2:~$
rob@graph2:~$VBoxManage createvm --name "TEST" --register
Virtual machine 'TEST' is created and registered.
UUID: 9c397450-9090-422d-9ae9-fceca6d79cf5
Settings file: '/home/rob/.VirtualBox/Machines/TEST/TEST.vbox'
rob@graph2:~$VBoxManage list vms
rob@graph2:~$ls -l .VirtualBox/
total 32
-rw------- 1 rob users 1184 Feb 2 17:29 compreg.dat
drwx------ 3 rob users 72 Feb 2 17:29 Machines
-rw------- 1 rob users 1552 Feb 2 17:29 VBoxSVC.log
-rw------- 1 rob users 24549 Feb 2 17:29 xpti.dat
rob@graph2:~$ls -l .VirtualBox/Machines/
total 0
drwx------ 2 rob users 80 Feb 2 17:29 TEST
rob@graph2:~$ls -l .VirtualBox/Machines/TEST
total 8
-rw------- 1 rob users 6010 Feb 2 17:29 TEST.vbox
rob@graph2:~$ls -l .config/VirtualBox/
total 36
-rw------- 1 rob users 1184 Feb 2 17:29 compreg.dat
-rw------- 1 rob users 1559 Feb 2 17:29 VBoxSVC.log
-rw------- 1 rob users 1175 Feb 2 17:29 VirtualBox.xml
-rw------- 1 rob users 24549 Feb 2 17:29 xpti.dat
rob@graph2:~$
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This is pretty much a showstopper.
Anyone understand what's going on, or better yet, have a solution? |
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audiodef Watchman
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 6639 Location: The soundosphere
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bbgermany Veteran
Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 1844 Location: Oranienburg/Germany
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:39 am Post subject: |
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audiodef wrote: | Are you married to virtualbox? I started out trying to get it working and had various issues, and finally got a remote vm up and running with qemu/kvm. |
I think he is married to vbox, since its a 32bit athlon. SVM or AMD-V is available with 64bit Athlons only.
Which version of vbox do you use? Opensource? Closed source?
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robvr Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 96 Location: Best, The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:30 am Post subject: |
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I'm not married to Virtualbox per se, but it might eventually boil down to that.
Let me explain what the machine is supposed to be doing.
I have an old, but fairly unique Oki MD5000 printer (ALPS 5000 rebox), which connects using a parallel port. Driver support is limited to Win98 or "quite good but not official" Win2K. This is what I'm married to, and though hardly comfortably, it's not a marriage I can get out of.
All other considerations are of (in)convenience. I can run a dual boot system, of course, but with OSes this old, I mustn't even consider touching anything that smells of networking unless the network touched is locked down extremely well. Very inconvenient. Up until about a year ago, I could get by with a Linux system running an old (2.6) kernel, Vmware, and a Win98 install inside the VM, but some recent high-profile security issues made that too dangerous to continue. On a modern (software wise) 32 bit machine, VMware won't run. This killed my hybrid solution of doing part of my work inside a Win98 VM, and the rest through remote X on an application server.
Using Win2K, Virtualbox should have been capable of restoring my old situation, but this too appears to be impossible due to the rather silly issue I started this post about.
I've been using the open source version of Virtualbox (the one I get when merging app-emulation/virtualbox). I suppose I could take app-emulation/virtualbox-bin for a spin; it shouldn't make a difference, but given the ridiculous nature of the problem, it just might (especially since this would imply a downgrade to 4.3 from 5.1)
So, given that Virtualbox is merely a means to an end, I'm open to suggestions for alternatives. |
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robvr Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 96 Location: Best, The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:25 am Post subject: |
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robvr wrote: | I've been using the open source version of Virtualbox (the one I get when merging app-emulation/virtualbox). I suppose I could take app-emulation/virtualbox-bin for a spin; it shouldn't make a difference, but given the ridiculous nature of the problem, it just might (especially since this would imply a downgrade to 4.3 from 5.1) |
Correction, I wasn't on 5.1 yet, getting ready for updates now.
I did test the virtualbox-bin version. To my surprise, the quick command line tests posted earlier now work. More thorough testing will follow.
Really odd that something so simple should fail on a version built from source, especially since the very same sources built on a 64 bit machine do work. Will investigate further.. |
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