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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:21 pm    Post subject: kmail from kde3.2 beta Reply with quote

anyone else having problems with smtp. i see that there are some old posts but i didnt see anything about problems with the beta ebuilds

all my mail just sits in the outbox with a status msg that says faild to send
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

working fine for me
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

works fine for me too.. try updating to something > b1.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

> b1? all i see in package.mask is beta1
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nianderson wrote:
> b1? all i see in package.mask is beta1


Use CVS. either build it yourself or use my builds.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

humm well i installed your cvs build. works great btw nice job. but i still cant send mail with kmail using smtp?? i suspect something else is wrong but i dont know what anyone have any ideas?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nianderson wrote:
humm well i installed your cvs build. works great btw nice job. but i still cant send mail with kmail using smtp?? i suspect something else is wrong but i dont know what anyone have any ideas?


Stupid quesion, but it needs to be asked: Do you still have your identity set in kmail?

I only ask because the same thing happened to me the other day and I discovered my identity had somehow been deleted. When I restored it, my mail got sent as usual.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am also having problems with sending out mail from KMail 3.2 beta. When I try to send mail out, I get this error:
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Sending failed:
Your SMTP server doesn't support authentication.
The server responded: "Command unrecognized: "AUTH PLAIN""
The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder.
The following transport protocol was used:
On campus mail

I don't have this problem with KDE 3.1.4. It looks like that this is a bug with KDE 3.2 beta that hasn't been resolved yet. There are a fair number of bugs regarding KMail and SMTP at bugs.kde.org.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
Sending failed:
Your SMTP server doesn't support authentication.
The server responded: "Command unrecognized: "AUTH PLAIN""
The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder.
The following transport protocol was used:
On campus mail


KMail does have its quirks, no doubt about that. I'm running a cvs version but haven't had that problem. Did you re-run the Check What the Server Supports option in settings? Maybe that would help.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did run Check What the Server Supports. Basically, it didn't pick up any of the security options, but this is the same behavior as in KDE 3.1.4.

It also didn't help my problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is there a kmail log somewhere i can see what is happening?
yes i do have my identity set and just to make zure i merged mozilla thunderbird and it sends with smtp fine. im running both the cvs build and the beta ebuilds in portage same problem with both. no big error message or anythign just failed to send queued messages.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first emerged kde 3.2.0-beta1 on my test box, I had the same problem. As I recall, I think I fixed it by removing and re-entering my identies and/or network info, and exiting kmail, then reopening kmail.Then it begin sending mail as normal. Don't forget to delete any failed queued messages you tried to send, or they will block sending until they are removed.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if this is related but i had smtp problems as well with kde 3.2 beta1 (bare lf error from qmail while sending via smtp). I solved them by unmerging the old version(s) of kde and remerging kdepim (kmail has moved from kdenetwork). According to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64559 there are known problems with the interaction between kmail from 3.2 and kio_smtp from 3.1

maybe that helps...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iamlarryboy wrote:
working fine for me

larryboy, do you have kde-cvs installed along side kde 3.1.4, or do you have kde-cvs installed by itself?

I did try unmerging the 3.1.4 versions of kdepim and kdenetwork and reemerging the 3.2.0-beta1 versions, but this did not help me. I also renamed the kio_smtp.la and kio_smtp.so files in /usr/kde/3.1/lib/kde3 without fixing this problem.

I am very tempted to unmerge kde 3.2 beta and give kde-cvs a try.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your SMTP server doesn't support authentication.


Not to sound like a jackass, but did you try disabling smtp authentication? :P
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As it turns out, that actually was the issue. In KDE 3.1.4, if your server didn't support SMTP authentication, but you had it checked, that was ignored. In KDE 3.2, it gives you an error message that could be better worded.
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