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mine freezes when i try open up an xterm (to start xcompmgr).
i have an nvidia card (Xfbdev doesnt work properly either)
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#!/bin/bash
server="Xfbdev"
screen="-screen 800x600x16"
mouse="-mouse /dev/input/mice,5"
fonts="-fp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts"
opts="-dpi 96 -nolisten tcp"
rgb="-rgba rgb"
xinit -- /opt/fdo/bin/$server $opts $rgb $screen $mouse $fonts
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S_aIN_t
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:18 am Post subject: |
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alright... got it installed and working..
however, two problems.
1. some of the fonts (artwiz) are missing
2. when i quit xserver i either get a blue screen and a locked system or a black screen and a locked system. the only solution is to reboot.
if anyone could help me with these two problems i would use xserver i a heartbeat.
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eikketk
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Got that 'locking' problem too after a Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (cant logout nicely, caus still havent got my OB working  ) |
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Dracnor
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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The installation went OK (had xv and composite in USE flags), and I can bring up a gnome-session using Xfbdev. Everything seems to work fine, except for the eye-candy -- no shadows or menu transparency. I can manually set transparency on selected windows with transset and they work fine. xcompmgr starts OK but gives some errors when I open and close things:
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error 136 request 138 minor 7
error 140 request 141 minor 2
error 136 request 138 minor 7
error 140 request 141 minor 2
error 3 request 2 minor 0
error 136 request 138 minor 7
error 140 request 141 minor 2
error 3 request 3 minor 0
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S_aIN_t
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Dracnor wrote: | The installation went OK (had xv and composite in USE flags), and I can bring up a gnome-session using Xfbdev. Everything seems to work fine, except for the eye-candy -- no shadows or menu transparency. I can manually set transparency on selected windows with transset and they work fine. xcompmgr starts OK but gives some errors when I open and close things:
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error 136 request 138 minor 7
error 140 request 141 minor 2
error 136 request 138 minor 7
error 140 request 141 minor 2
error 3 request 2 minor 0
error 136 request 138 minor 7
error 140 request 141 minor 2
error 3 request 3 minor 0
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what is transset... i dont have it on my computer
thanks for your help
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Dracnor
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| spyderous wrote: | | New stuff up. Highlights are transset and uncover, which allow setting window transparency and showing live program thumbnails, respectively. |
it sets window transparency to a default of 15...not sure how to alter the alpha level. You'll have to grab the ebuilds of of spyderous. Still trying to figure out how to get shadows and menu trans. |
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S_aIN_t
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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i am stupid. the ebuilds were in the x11-misc dir of the overlay provided by spyderous. however, with trasp enabled (especially in bigger windows) xsever becomes very slow. i guess I should wait till they do some more work on it and till my video card (neomagic) is better supported.
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ibrotha
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Dracnor wrote: | | spyderous wrote: | | New stuff up. Highlights are transset and uncover, which allow setting window transparency and showing live program thumbnails, respectively. |
it sets window transparency to a default of 15...not sure how to alter the alpha level. You'll have to grab the ebuilds of of spyderous. Still trying to figure out how to get shadows and menu trans. |
The alpha level is hardcoded into the transset routine. To change it you have to change the value and recompile... I tried to do this, but changing it doesnt seem to give any effect (other than different numbers showing when I run the program, the transparency seems to be the same). |
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Dracnor
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| What about the shadows and menu trans? Are they hard set during the compile or is there a way to change them during run-time? |
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encon
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Ok I have an transparent aterm thanks to transset its not 100% how i would like it. I wish it only made the background transparent and the forground to be the same.
I still cant get a transparent menu (using gnome 2.5.0 compiling 2.5.1 atm) |
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ibrotha
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Dracnor wrote: | | What about the shadows and menu trans? Are they hard set during the compile or is there a way to change them during run-time? |
Menu trans can be set by transset as well, I think.As far as i understand mouse input is the only way to get object id in transset(and adjust the ids alpha value). Unfortunately, it is hard to use the transset routine to set the alpha value of menus, as it requires you to click on the menu, which can be hard to do... I see someone has been able to do it in kde but so far I haven't managed to do it in gnome...
Shadows are set in xcompmngr I think. In order to change the shadows you would have to hack that routine in some way, or make yourself a "shadowset" routine. Don't ask me how  |
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heijs
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Bump so more people can enjoy this great xserver |
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fizz
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:34 am Post subject: |
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wow, lookin realy good, running vesa at 1600x1200
too bad opengl apps wont run..
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malloc
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Anybody has any idea as to when will this support other X drivers beside the vesa driver? (Namely the nvidia driver?) |
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charlieg
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| malloc wrote: | | Anybody has any idea as to when will this support other X drivers beside the vesa driver? (Namely the nvidia driver?) |
Not overly soon. They're gunning for their ideal architecture. They're aiming at semantics and structure first, then the grunt work on stuff like drivers. I think there's also a hope that X server is 'wow' enough to attact NVidia, ATI, etc to start producing drivers for it as well as XFree.
Anyway, they're still debating the structure of OpenGL inclusion. Once that's written, tested, and working (3+ months at least) then you'll start to hear people talking of creating drivers to fit the architecture.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| charlieg wrote: | | Anyway, they're still debating the structure of OpenGL inclusion. Once that's written, tested, and working (3+ months at least) then you'll start to hear people talking of creating drivers to fit the architecture. |
I've been following the mailing list and I get the feeling that they will be including OpenGL. Some guys have already started writing code for it.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| This may have been covered, or I missed it, but my mouse seems both hypersensitive, and each click seems to count as a double click. Like, clicking once on a menubar will hide it, and I have to hold the button down to go across menus. Anyone have this problem? Anyone fix it? |
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MighMoS
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| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| Oops...I had that mouse line twice in startxkd....I feel dumb. Always a reminder to RTFS. |
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Chickpea
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Has anyone yet compiled this standalone ie no xfree and then compiled any X apps?
I tried a while back but was not able to get it to work by itself. |
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heijs
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I did, but I don't know how to start my wm after I launch X |
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MighMoS
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:19 am Post subject: |
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I do:
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(alt+F1 back to console)
$xterm -display :0.0&
(alt+F7)
/opt/fdo/bin/xcompmgr&
[your wm bin name here, (gnome-session starts gnome)]
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There's prolly a better script, but that's what I do.  If you don't know your wm bin, you can do | Code: | | $ qpkg -l [wm you emerged]|grep bin. |
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anarchron
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| Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| hey is it possible to get a resolution of 1400x1050 with Xvesa? If so, how? |
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markfl
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| Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Friendly bump to say this new x server is coming along very nicely, once the base code is done and is stable and driver work begins i sincerely hope that several major distros (read RH, MDK and others) take this up and give nVidia and ATI reasons to make drivers and/or provide the resources for open source drivers to be made for many cards.
An open source nVidia driver would be very popular
anyway
friendly bump on its way to fast, sexy looking GUI's for linux 
MJ
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| Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| While I would love it (and many others I'm sure) if nVidia created opensourced drivers, they most likely wont for a LOOONG time, because it would reveal their secrets if the drivers were half-decent. And, while yes, ATI / anyone else copying them would be illegal, well, you know how quickly they would anyway. Its up to open source to create open source drivers...if someone ever gets decent ones, I'll beta-test! |
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mallchin
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Qball wrote: | | does it support xinerama? I realy need that |
I second this. I guess I will have to try it.
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