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dberkholz
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| bssteph wrote: | | That's an overlay of everything spyderous has there. I believe the person is asking about a overlay of just the xserver ebuilds, which would be convenient. |
As I've mentioned before (not sure if it was here), it's simply more work than I want to deal with, because the overlay-freedesktop is a tree of symlinks from my regular overlay. If there's an easy way to make it that I'm overlooking, let me know. |
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dberkholz
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| baseinfinity wrote: | | A little note about uninstalling these things in the case where you used /opt/fbo/ ... etc: Once you remove the overlay, emerge will be broken because of the virtual/x11. One needs to go into /var/cache/edb/virtuals and remove the reference to freesever on the virtual/x11 line to get everything working again. |
Thanks for pointing this out, it slipped my mind that valid virtuals need to be mentioned in the profiles also. I removed the virtual. |
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bssteph
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| spyderous wrote: | | bssteph wrote: | | That's an overlay of everything spyderous has there. I believe the person is asking about a overlay of just the xserver ebuilds, which would be convenient. |
As I've mentioned before (not sure if it was here), it's simply more work than I want to deal with, because the overlay-freedesktop is a tree of symlinks from my regular overlay. If there's an easy way to make it that I'm overlooking, let me know. |
Perhaps I'm not understanding the problem, but what about
| tar manpage wrote: | -h, --dereference
don't dump symlinks; dump the files they point to |
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| Code: | | cd overlay-freedesktop && tar cvjhf overlay-freedesktop-20031208.tar.bz2 * |
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Stu L Tissimus
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eikketk
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Another *bump* for this nice X-server, altough I didnt see it yet, except a simple grey screen...
(and the damn Linux PS2 support of course  Seems Ill never get my mouse to work) |
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eikketk
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Got my mouse working  (2.6t11)
Now I have to get rid of that grey screen... I want to compile OpenBox3, but cannot  It seems to need a package called startup-notification, but that one doesnt want to emerge, because during configuration, X cant be found... |
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heijs
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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You have to specify the location of the X libraries and header files.
Just change
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| Code: | | econf --x-includes=/opt/fdo/include --x-libraries=/opt/fdo/lib || die |
in the startup-notification ebuild, after that it should emerge fine
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heijs
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| It seems that openbox-3 does not need startup-notification and after adding the stuff posted above to the econf part in the openbox ebuild it just emerges without startup-notification! |
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eikketk
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Gonna try that right away!!!
Thanks |
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pens
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| Can these ebuilds be installed alongside regular xfree? I really want to try and install this but I dont want my entire system hosed if something goes wrong. |
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norvillebarnes
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| pens wrote: | | Can these ebuilds be installed alongside regular xfree? I really want to try and install this but I dont want my entire system hosed if something goes wrong. |
Yes, the ebuilds now install to /opt/fdo by default, so X-free can happily live alongside xserver without you having to anything special. This thread and the other one in this forum have numerous methods for switching between the 2 servers.
Hope this helps,
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Peaceable Frood
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I'm still getting
Interrupt pointer doesn't point at ROM
Interrupt pointer doesn't point at ROM
Interrupt pointer doesn't point at ROM
Interrupt pointer doesn't point at ROM
and it's pissing me off, as I can't use it. If have a GeForceFX 5600 Ultra, and it's not working. Neither does the fbdev driver.
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eikketk
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I was able to compile that startup-notification package, and Openbox3. Now another question (sorry...): how do I launch Openbox? (These are my first steps in desktop-Linux...)
Currently I get a nice one-color grey screen, with a normal (black) arrow as a cursor, when I start it like:
/opt/fdo/bin/Xvesa -ac :0 -mouse /dev/psaux -screen 800x600x16 & DISPLAY=:0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/fdo/lib/ /opt/fdo/bin/xcompmgr & DISPLAY=:0 openbox
But this seems to be wrong...
I havent got xinit or something alike -> no Xfree. If I need to use xinit (hope not): isnt it possible to emerge that without the other parts of XFree? I cant even untar the Xfree package on my HD...
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dberkholz
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| bssteph wrote: | Perhaps I'm not understanding the problem, but what about
| tar manpage wrote: | -h, --dereference
don't dump symlinks; dump the files they point to |
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| Code: | | cd overlay-freedesktop && tar cvjhf overlay-freedesktop-20031208.tar.bz2 * |
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Thanks bssteph. I haven't been poring through man pages, clearly. =)
BTW, haven't seen you in #gentoo lately. |
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dberkholz
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| New stuff up. Highlights are transset and uncover, which allow setting window transparency and showing live program thumbnails, respectively. |
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eikketk
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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*bump* to get my WM working please...
These are my first step in X  |
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bssteph
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| spyderous wrote: | | bssteph wrote: | Perhaps I'm not understanding the problem, but what about
| tar manpage wrote: | -h, --dereference
don't dump symlinks; dump the files they point to |
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| Code: | | cd overlay-freedesktop && tar cvjhf overlay-freedesktop-20031208.tar.bz2 * |
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Thanks bssteph. I haven't been poring through man pages, clearly. =)
BTW, haven't seen you in #gentoo lately. |
I've been crazy busy with school stuff... I end up idling in the one channel I still go to half the time (but on the plus side, the server for my senior design product is getting the Gentoo treatment)
back on-topic, rock on at new stuff... I love using xserver as a bit of eyecandy for the people on campus :D |
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pens
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Two questions...
First, in regular xfree86 gdesklets run relatively sluggishly (5-25% cpu usage just sitting there). Does the freeserver x fix this? By this I mean does gdesklets run any faster in this due to the alpha-blending?
Second, are there any drivers besided the Vesa drivers? DRI? ATI? |
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charlieg
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| pens wrote: | | First, in regular xfree86 gdesklets run relatively sluggishly (5-25% cpu usage just sitting there). Does the freeserver x fix this? By this I mean does gdesklets run any faster in this due to the alpha-blending? |
Why would fdo's Xserver fix this? This is a gdesklets issue, not an X issue. And I hear that recent (0.24 and up) versions of gdesklets killed most of this cpu abuse.
| pens wrote: | | Second, are there any drivers besided the Vesa drivers? DRI? ATI? |
No, they haven't been written yet. Xserver uses a completely different driver framework to XFree. Don't expect them any time soon (stable within the next 6 months). They will, however, come.
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2crazy
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| pens wrote: | Two questions...
First, in regular xfree86 gdesklets run relatively sluggishly (5-25% cpu usage just sitting there). Does the freeserver x fix this? By this I mean does gdesklets run any faster in this due to the alpha-blending?
Second, are there any drivers besided the Vesa drivers? DRI? ATI? |
I probably can say something about your first question. I'm using some gDesklets for some time now.
First of all, they don't consume even 1% of the CPU usage on my system, I don't now why this happens on your machine.
But, I tried XServer this weekend, and as soon as I start xcompmgr all gDesklets get drop shadows. That's kinda an unwanted result, since they blend in nicely on my desktop, but only without shadows
Maybe someone knows a way to avoid shadows for certain applications?
But still, it is an awesome project, you should give it a try even though the project is still in the early alpha stages. But as someone said, you can see where it is going. |
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pens
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[quote="charlieg"] | pens wrote: | | First, in regular xfree86 gdesklets run relatively sluggishly (5-25% cpu usage just sitting there). Does the freeserver x fix this? By this I mean does gdesklets run any faster in this due to the alpha-blending? |
Why would fdo's Xserver fix this? This is a gdesklets issue, not an X issue. And I hear that recent (0.24 and up) versions of gdesklets killed most of this cpu abuse.
I was under the impression that the freedesktop server implements alpha-blending better than the standard xfree86 server and thus would handle the transparent gdesklets better |
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dberkholz
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| pens wrote: | | I was under the impression that the freedesktop server implements alpha-blending better than the standard xfree86 server and thus would handle the transparent gdesklets better |
It does. It's transparency at the X level though, not in the preferences of gdesklets. So you'd set the gdesklets prefs to be solid, then use something like transset to make it transparent. |
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dberkholz
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| charlieg wrote: | | pens wrote: | | Second, are there any drivers besided the Vesa drivers? DRI? ATI? |
No, they haven't been written yet. Xserver uses a completely different driver framework to XFree. Don't expect them any time soon (stable within the next 6 months). They will, however, come. |
That isn't quite accurate, since there's also an fbdev driver. It's only accelerated for mga, mach64 and rage128 though, or at least that was recently the case. |
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Word Mofo
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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A couple of questions:
1) Has anyone hacked up a transparent xterm like KeithP did? How do you do that
2) How is it that all of the menus and certain apps (like XScreensaver) know to be transparent? I assume it's in the xcompmgr source, not the individual apps' source, right? |
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renelicious
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:00 am Post subject: Screenshot |
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Just wanted to add my screenshot. That's right, transparent TV!
http://mjlowrance.home.mchsi.com/Screenshot.png
I can't wait until this thing is ready for release, I'm pretty close to switching it in as my default and its still pre-alpha. |
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