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Jaglover Watchman
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 8291 Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:10 pm Post subject: Best crashing application? |
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Gentoo system runs rock solid. As a matter of fact, I do not recall any crashes at all during many years of Gentoo. Some hardware caused crashes, yes. And crashing applications, indeed.
My #1 crasher is aMule. I tried it a few years ago and it kept crashing. Today I tried it again and the GUI has a huge memory leak. Daemon runs fine, though.
What's your top crasher? _________________ My Gentoo installation notes.
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stqn n00b
Joined: 07 Apr 2015 Posts: 51
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:17 am Post subject: |
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There is a fix for the memory leak in aMule; you have to change the ebuild to build it with wxGTK 2: https://bugs.gentoo.org/597194
But even then, yes, it still crashes from time to time :). Once I had to run it in a loop from the terminal to solve the issue… |
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Jaglover Watchman
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 8291 Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
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Ant P. Watchman
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 6920
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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On my laptop here, mpv has a really bad habit of freezing the system entirely (= completely unresponsive screen for a minute or more, but sysrq still works) if I give it an oversized video. Chromium does it with "difficult" webpages too (basically everything these days).
I guess I have xf86-video-intel to thank for both. Can't get rid of it unfortunately. |
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Jaglover Watchman
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 8291 Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
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mv Watchman
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 6780
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Jaglover wrote: | What about modesetting? |
eix -vl modesetting wrote: | [...] For ancient hardware. Tired of maintaining. Masked for removal in 30 days. [...] |
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Jaglover Watchman
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 8291 Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
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mv Watchman
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Jaglover wrote: | Time for eix-update perhaps? |
What do you mean? The mask was added November 23 and never removed. Problem seems to be is that it is not maintained upstream |
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Jaglover Watchman
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 8291 Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
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Zucca Moderator
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 3709 Location: Rasi, Finland
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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My top crashers in few years time have to be (in no particular order):- Google Earth - but it's now much more better
- systemd - REISUB to the rescue
- OpenShot - just compiling it again, hoping for the best
- Mandelbulber 2 - I used amdgpu-pro-opencl -package to provide OpenCL, so I kinda was expecting issues... :P
_________________ ..: Zucca :..
My gentoo installs: | init=/sbin/openrc-init
-systemd -logind -elogind seatd |
Quote: | I am NaN! I am a man! |
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Jaglover Watchman
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Zucca Moderator
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 3709 Location: Rasi, Finland
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Jaglover wrote: | Ahh, I had forgotten Google Earth even exists. Do you use voyageur overlay ebuild or have your own? | Good question... I have it installed but it seems none of the currently installed overlays provide it. :o
I think it was haarp overlay. _________________ ..: Zucca :..
My gentoo installs: | init=/sbin/openrc-init
-systemd -logind -elogind seatd |
Quote: | I am NaN! I am a man! |
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mv Watchman
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 6780
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Sorry for getting a bit off-topic.
Jaglover wrote: | The modesetting driver is part of the xorg-server package since version 1.17 |
Thanks (BTW: updating of the mask reasons does not require eix-update ).
Does this message mean that owners of an intel card should remove Code: | VIDEO_CARDS="intel" | from their make.conf and put into their xorg.conf.d:
Code: | Section "Device"
Identifier "Intel Graphics"
Driver "modesetting"
Option "AccelMethod" "glamor"
Option "DRI" "3"
EndSection |
as you suggested in some other thread?
I am asking, because removing VIDEO_CARDS="intel" does not only involve xorg-drivers but also other packages like mesa, libdrm, and pm-utils. I tried experimentally and did not observe any drawback with extreme-tuxracer, but then I am not so sure whether etr really uses all these libs. |
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krinn Watchman
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:00 am Post subject: |
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i would say magarena, i love that game, but hey, java
ps: i doesn't mean it keep crashing, but that is sure for me the best crasher, as thinking about the subject i've got hard times finding one except this one. |
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Zucca Moderator
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:11 am Post subject: |
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krinn wrote: | i would say magarena, i love that game, but hey, java :) | Nice find. I could try that out. Although I stopped playing around Tempest expansion. _________________ ..: Zucca :..
My gentoo installs: | init=/sbin/openrc-init
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bunder Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5937
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Roman_Gruber Advocate
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 3846 Location: Austro Bavaria
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Best crashing application? |
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Jaglover wrote: | What's your top crasher? |
Libreoffice when I need to fill out a Microsoft xlsx file with a few fields set, very small and simple file. Instantly crashes. happened ~2 weeks ago, on every attemp
libreoffice is very bug ridden.
nvidia-drivers => two screen mode => external screen => switch back to internal screen => dead ... happened a few days ago
any wine related game with utilizes uplay ... |
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Jaglover Watchman
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 8291 Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
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Ant P. Watchman
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 6920
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Jaglover wrote: | What about modesetting? It is supposed to be the replacement for video-intel. |
Doesn't work on an i945. |
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mv Watchman
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 6780
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Jaglover wrote: | ]there is a wiki page now |
Thanks a lot. If I interpret this page correctly, one still has to use VIDEO_CARDS="intel" even if the intel driver is not used. |
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Fitzcarraldo Advocate
Joined: 30 Aug 2008 Posts: 2056 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:50 am Post subject: |
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My 'top crasher' is kde-plasma/kwin (all versions since :5 was released) during login. There must be some sort of race condition, because KWin does not crash every time I log in. It doesn't bother me; I just click 'Restart Application' if it does happen and Plasma start-up continues. KWin does not crash after the Desktop appears. Apart from KWin, I can't think of any other applications in my installation that crash these days. _________________ Clevo W230SS: amd64, VIDEO_CARDS="intel modesetting nvidia".
Compal NBLB2: ~amd64, xf86-video-ati. Dual boot Win 7 Pro 64-bit.
OpenRC systemd-utils[udev] elogind KDE on both.
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AJM Apprentice
Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 195 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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It's a very long time since I can remember any apps on my system crashing - even then it was mostly proprietary software rather than open source stuff. The one exception I think was sweep, the audio editor, which was bad for crashing at one time - I haven't used it heavily for a few years but it seems pretty stable now.
It's no longer in the portage tree and sadly no longer developed but happily survived the profile switch to 17.0 with just a little tweak of the ebuild - I know much more fancy editors are available, but it's such an easy to use and "just powerful enough" program that I can use it without any trouble at any time without having to spend ages remembering how to make the program work. |
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artbody Guru
Joined: 15 Sep 2006 Posts: 494 Location: LB
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kdenlive
it's crashing at the End of rendering - but videos still work _________________ Never give up
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bunder Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5937
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:13 am Post subject: |
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My newest "big crasher" seems to be the selfservice binary in the Citrix ICA client. Trying to launch an app via the web gateway, by icon, or "wfica file.ica" gives me "ssl error 4", despite having the certificates installed. selfservice just straight up segfaults. Connection center or preferences work just fine. |
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