A 3d window manager from sun??????

sebest

Look at this
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/xtreme/
there is a video showing a 3d window manager with OsX effects.
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richk449 · Guru Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 345

Wow - that was really cool. Maybe even cool enough to forgive Sun for helping SCO out.

richk449 · Guru Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 345

There is not much detail in this article, but they at least mention it in a review of the Java Desktop Environment or whatever it is called.

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=4549

viperlin · Veteran Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 1319 Location: UK

that looks so kool :lol:

eat dirt longhorn

RedBeard0531 · Guru Joined: 21 Sep 2002 Posts: 415 Location: maryland

I want!
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Stu L Tissimus · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 2:43 am Post subject:

OMFG MUST HAVE NOW
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Unne · l33t Joined: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 616

Linux really needs stuff like this. Not sure how useful I'd find a 3D desktop, but smooth window transformations and animations like those are just insanely nice. I hope X Server does something to further the possibility of our getting them.

Promit · Guru Joined: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 344

Good Lord...I am NEVER buying that.

As if OS X wasn't bad enough...

Achilles · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 4:18 am Post subject:

When this comes out, will it be available for all *nixs or just sun?

nukem996 · l33t Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 776

It seems pretty kool, but could be easily done. Awhile back on the opengl linux fourms, found at www.opengl.org we were discussing guis done in pure OGL. For anyone that has an OpenGL(GPU rendering) card it would be fast as hell. But for anyone using software rendering(mesa) it would go much much slower.

/me sences a new open source project hehehe

nempo · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:32 am Post subject:

Gandalf98 · Guru Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 472 Location: Loano

Very cool!
But I wonder which CPU and how many RAM, make this possible!!!!
In the portage there's something similar:
x11-misc/3ddesktop, but I never tried!
Bye

gizmo.tar.bz23 · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:59 am Post subject:

hmm, looks nice but java?????

i hate java :twisted:

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ObiPerrin · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 4:07 pm Post subject:

This is probably a bit of a newbie question, but I'm going to ask it anyway. At what layer would this 3d wm come in? The X level? Would it take the place of KWin in kde? Or would it be standalone from any other existing desktop setup?

Stu L Tissimus · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 4:46 pm Post subject:

I'd say that it comes in on the X11 level. XFree86 does not allow this type of manipulation, and we would therefore have to use a totally new X server. A more advanced X server is in my sig (The eyecandy part). It allows transparency and shadows. However, this is not the main appeal of Xserver-freedesktop. It has built-in compositing. Compositing lets you have just about any effect you'd like. It is what OSX uses when it's using transparency, the shadows around windows, and when it does the "Genie" effect. It also allows for the way the desktop is like a cube, like in OSX Panther. And lastly it lets you even do stuff like Expose. However, this would have to come in on the X11 level, because thery are using X11 apps in the video.

Basically, (at least, I think this is correct) a Compositing Manager turns an application, or any window, into an interactive picture. This allows for it to resize windows like with Expose, or with the Genie effect. This is the same type of thing shown in the Sun video. What Expose does is it will make all the windows smaller. Not resizing, actually scaled. Then you click on it and it comes up. So while Expose uses compositing for scaling, we can use it to make shapes that are not just rectangular.

Hope it all made sense... You only know so much about essays in eigth grade... o_O
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duff · Guru Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Posts: 466 Location: Clemson, SC

Woah...wonder what kind of system they have that running on.

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Word Mofo · n00b Joined: 31 Jul 2002 Posts: 17

This story on OSnews seems to indicate that this window manager is a long way off. Here's a quote:

Roguelazer · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:17 pm Post subject:

It's not WM level. In the commercial thing, the movie was STILL PLAYING while they resized it and tilted it and whatnot. If it used a "screenshot technique", the movie would be very jerky/not playing.
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TheJabberwokk · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 11:27 pm Post subject: Well this be open sourced?

Well this be open sourced