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The_Document
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 Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:33 am Post subject: Users of Mplayer here |
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| Just wondering if anybody here uses mplayer to stream videos. I cannot get it to work and I am certain its a gentoo bug, so I choose to try and verify it, if you have mplayer installed and it does stream videos than please state that it does. |
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n17r4m
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Yep, works great for me. I just tried streaming a youtube video and it appears to work fine. Even seeking is well-supported.
Example command I would use (since youtube doesn't like giving up actual video urls easily) is
| Code: | | mplayer $(youtube-dl -g "https://youtu.be/hB07EJhMBRs") |
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The_Document
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| n17r4m wrote: | Yep, works great for me. I just tried streaming a youtube video and it appears to work fine. Even seeking is well-supported.
Example command I would use (since youtube doesn't like giving up actual video urls easily) is
| Code: | | mplayer $(youtube-dl -g "https://youtu.be/hB07EJhMBRs") |
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It SHOULD WORK without youtube-dl, can you test? Also what revision of mplayer is installed? |
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n17r4m
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| The_Document wrote: |
It SHOULD WORK without youtube-dl, can you test? Also what revision of mplayer is installed? |
I don't see how it could? The vanilla youtube link is a reference to a web page, not a video stream. I don't think it is reasonable for mplayer to parse html, it is outside the scope of the program. Reading up on your "background" post, maybe when using windows/mac the particular front-end to mplayer you had used something like youtube-dl internally to retrieve the actual stream url, and passed that along to mplayer transparently. Anyways, testing using the youtu.be url fails, since that just gives mplayer html text, which it doesn't understand, since it's looking for video data.
edit: Using MPlayer 1.3.0
edit2: Grammer |
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The_Document
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| n17r4m wrote: | | The_Document wrote: |
It SHOULD WORK without youtube-dl, can you test? Also what revision of mplayer is installed? |
I don't see how it could? The vanilla youtube link is a reference to a web page, not a video stream. I don't think it is reasonable for mplayer to parse html, it is outside the scope of the program. Reading up on your "background" post, maybe when using windows/mac the particular front-end to mplayer you had used something like youtube-dl internally to retrieve the actual stream url, and passed that along to mplayer transparently. Anyways, testing using the youtu.be url fails, since that just gives mplayer html text, which it doesn't understand, since it's looking for video data.
edit: Using MPlayer 1.3.0
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Mplayer aside, smplayer and vlc on windows opened network streams, it does not on gentoo and vlc is not mplayer dependent. I ran another youtube video and mplayer said:
| Code: | | https protocol not found, recompile FFmpeg with openssl, gnutls or securetransport enabled. |
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n17r4m
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| The_Document wrote: |
Mplayer aside, smplayer and vlc on windows opened network streams, it does not on gentoo and vlc is not mplayer dependent. |
I tried with vlc, indeed, in the examples area on the "open network stream" it implies that you can use vanilla youtube links, which does not work (in the logs, I see "Garbage at input" errors). So, perhaps there are some platform differences, and maybe vlc on gentoo should not suggest that youtube links can be opened as-is. A brief search seems to suggest that extra vlc plugins are required to parse youtube links?
That said, using the actual video stream urls (as reported from youtube-dl -g ) and everything works as expected.
I dunno, for me this was totally expected behavior and I'm actually surprised to find out that you can use regular youtube links on other platforms and/or distros. If you want to pursue this and help make gentoo a better place, perhaps consider filing a bug for gentoo/vlc requesting this support be added. (and thus get the needed plugin/extension added to the vlc ebuild)
Anyways, enough chatter from me. I hope you have a nice day, cheers!
edit: for ssl support, you may need to add the openssl USE flag to ffmpeg. |
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Tyrus
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:35 am Post subject: |
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To play youtube video streams with vlc you need the lua use flag. Thats what is also reported here:
| elko wrote: | | You need lua use flag to play youtube videos. With that use flag, youtube.luac and youtube_homepage.luac is compiled. I suppose that the scripts parse HTML youtube pages to find the video streams. |
Read here: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1024132-start-0.html |
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The_Document
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:10 am Post subject: |
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| Tyrus wrote: | To play youtube video streams with vlc you need the lua use flag. Thats what is also reported here:
| elko wrote: | | You need lua use flag to play youtube videos. With that use flag, youtube.luac and youtube_homepage.luac is compiled. I suppose that the scripts parse HTML youtube pages to find the video streams. |
Read here: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1024132-start-0.html |
Well he was right and Im very happy now that Smtube and VLC work together and play youtube videos. I demand the wiki for VLC be UPDATED to tell users you NEED lua and gnutls for network streaming to work. Same goes for mplayer wiki entry. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| It's a wiki, just do it. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:59 am Post subject: |
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The_Document,
You are a part of the Gentoo community.
Share your experiences with the rest of the community by contributing to the wiki.
If editing the page directly is a step too far, put your finding on the discussion page so the experiences you have gained are not lost.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:30 am Post subject: |
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I have both mplayer and mpv on my system, but typically use mpv over mplayer, and with youtube-dl it's pretty easy to use.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Anon-E-moose wrote: | | but typically use mpv over mplayer, and with youtube-dl it's pretty easy to use. |
I've abandoned all the other video players becuase mpv seems to handle everything I throw at it.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Mplayer is maintained AFAIK, please check your sources before making such bold statements, especially on documentation pages. (Even more so since mpv made some controversial moves of late... )
BTW: One look at the mplayer mailing list would have been enough: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-dev-eng/
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I think it's supported, maintained, and is being developed still. It's just not a very social project so you rarely hear about it.
There's a SVN available, works fine. |
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Mplayer is actively maintained according to every source out there, even if they are not talkative.
Editing the wiki recklessly like that because you have problems with their product seriously damages the credibility of the wiki. Please revert the change and refrain from posting your speculations as fact.
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Zucca
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| The Doctor wrote: | | Mplayer is actively maintained according to every source out there |
| mplayerhq.hu wrote: | | The latest MPlayer release is 1.3.0, created on 16/02/2016 |
At least its been a while since last release. Yes. That's not the whole story. Just thought to mention this.
Also I've already edited the note on the wikipage.
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| Zucca wrote: | | At least its been a while since last release. Yes. That's not the whole story. Just thought to mention this. |
That is true, but for a media player back end the goal posts are not really moving so that just means the project is mature.
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Dominique_71
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If you read the installation section of the documentation on mplayer's website, the developers recommend to install mplayer directly from its source code repository, which on gentoo will be a live ebuild (mplayer-9999), and to let mplayer download and compile with the libraries it thinks are best for him. It is no mplayer ebuild that met that condition in portage. Gentoo like all the other linux distributions are forcing mplayer to use the system libraries instead. Which imply if you instal mplayer with the mplayer-9999 ebuild (if still in portage), you will have to unmask libraries, and it is only a matter of time before other software will break or not compile at all. It is why I use my own mplayer-9999 ebuild.
That will not solve the youtube redirections mess, but 1) that's not mplayer's job to deal with that, 2) it let mplayer to be able to play media files as soon their codecs are added into its libraries, which is before the other players, and 3) nothing collide with the system libraries. So don't say mplayer is abandonware, but use it the recommended way instead.
Edit: add 3) + typo.
Edit: codecs in libraries
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