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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:30 am    Post subject: cd/dvd drive unable to mount Reply with quote

so whenever i try to mount the drive, it will always say something along the lines of "bad superblock" cannot read. no programs can read it either. im using kernel version 4.9.76 and the LG GH24 disk drive. does someone know what i can change in order to make it be readable?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

berardel,

what type of disc are you putting in the drive?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the output of file -s /path/to/optical/block/device?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

russK wrote:

what type of disc are you putting in the drive?

oh forgot to mention this part, im just using a regular CD
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What is the output of file -s /path/to/optical/block/device?

it just says empty
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't mount DVDs or CDs. You just play them. They do not contain a file system.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Doctor wrote:
You don't mount DVDs or CDs. You just play them. They do not contain a file system.

hmm, but im trying to burn a disk with brasero, except whenever i put in a disk, it doesnt detect it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Doctor wrote:
You don't mount DVDs or CDs. You just play them. They do not contain a file system.

ok wait i know what im doing wrong actually, i was trying to run the program as just regular user, but i need to be root to mount the disks. do you know what i can change though to allow normal users to mount disks?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to contradict the statement by The Doctor.

CDs may have filesystems on them, if they were written as data discs
(CD-ROM). The other main CD format is audio (CD-DA), which is indeed not
mountable and not even readable with the normal SCSI READ command for
storage devices.

Written DVD and BD media are always readable as storage devices. Usually
they contain ISO 9660 or UDF filesystems. UDF is prescribed for
entertainment video players, but not necessarily for general data storage.

Typical examples for CD and DVD with ISO 9660 filesystem are the installation
media images of Gentoo at https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/ .

A special feature of many CD, DVD, and BD types is that they can be unwritten
and thus bear nothing to read yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scdbackup,

For completeness entertainment DVDs and Blurays cannot normally be played or ripped using the filesystem.
Its usually deliberately corrupted or incomplete to prevent that.
Both formats are played using a blocklist, just like CD-DA.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neddy Seagoon wrote:
> For completeness entertainment DVDs and Blurays cannot normally be
> played or ripped using the filesystem.

There may well be obstacles for computer access to the proprietary
content. But other than with audio CD, the video DVD and BD specs demand
an UDF filesystem. (See wikipedia "DVD-Video" and "Blu-ray".)

> Both formats are played using a blocklist, just like CD-DA.

CD-DA has a Table-Of-Content (like all optical media) where the start
and end sectors of the tracks are recorded. (Wikipedia "Compact Disc
Digital Audio".)
Additionally to the track limits, there are "Index" points inside the
CD tracks which one can hop to by an audio player or ripping program.
(See MMC-5, 4.2.3.3 Frame Adressing, ff., and 6.26 READ TOC/PMA/ATIP
Command.)
The Table-Of-Content of DVD and BD does not bear these indice.

My point is that CD, DVD, and BD can well contain mountable filesystems.
But of course one can put data onto them which need special software to
be decoded. Not only by unusual access structures but also by encryption.

(I clearly belong to user group 2: At least 5 ISO 9660 backups per day
on DVD and BD multi-session discs.)
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