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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My biggest disappointment was when I read that the UI was heavily influenced by the btrfs UI. That UI my biggest complaint about btrfs (with the presumption that it's data-loss issues would be resolved) and one of the main benefits of ZFS.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
My biggest disappointment was when I read that the UI was heavily influenced by the btrfs UI. That UI my biggest complaint about btrfs (with the presumption that it's data-loss issues would be resolved) and one of the main benefits of ZFS.

what do you mean with "UI"?
I'm a bcachefs contributor myself, and afaik, the CLI is completely different.
Nonetherless, what are your concerns?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've read, I don't see any problems with bcachefs's UI.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpsollie wrote:
what do you mean with "UI"?
Sorry I missed your post.

Just that... the user interface. How a user interacts with the tools.

I can't find the reference now on the website, but it may have been moved to a PDF (is there really no web version?).

Searching for btrfs in the user manual PDF leads to chapter 2.5 regarding subvolumes. It mentions "a similar userspace interface as btrfs."

That leads me to believe the interface would be similar to what I experienced with btrfs. I don't know if that's exactly what I had seen on the website, but it seems close enough.

To qualify my bias, I've used ZFS and it's interface seemed intuitive. btrfs seemed the opposite. My only use of btrfs was briefly about 10 years ago in a VM to see how it compared to ZFS regarding usability / interaction.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its in! (for the 6.7 dev code)

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=9e87705289667a6c5185c619ea32f3d39314eb1b
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Unsupported Software to Gentoo Chat.

Some drama yet again.
One comment on the patreon page caught my eye:
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AGAIN?!?!?!

Didn't you calm down when you got the last drama? Why is it so hard to follow their rules? You are sending patches to the kernel THEY manage, so you have to follow THEIR rules. Be patient. Follow the release windows.

Now that you F up 3 times with your behavior, you need to be on your best behavior with them. You are digging your grave and you don't even see it. Take 1 year off from the kernel if you need then come back during a release window. You need to learn to swallow your ego otherwise someone else will swallow it themselves and multiply against you. Take a step back and reassess.

This is the last thin line before bcachefs may get rejected in the kernel because of how much disturbance you cause them regardless of whether you are right or not. Even if you are right in how the kernel should work, they manage it and you do not. Don't just go into someone else's house and define how they should be and manage their life in their own house. This is basically the same.

Calm yourself. The gun is already aiming at your foot and ready to shoot it. Don't shoot your own foot.


There's a Phoronix article too.

*sigh*
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