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Tony0945 Watchman
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 5127 Location: Illinois, USA
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:02 pm Post subject: Remote install on netbook HP 15-1039wm |
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My grandson has the title netbook and the hard drive is dying (or is dead, don't know which).
He used to run Gentoo as a user and I still have his /home/jacob directory on the computer he used to use.
We discussed buying another netbook or replacing the drive. He would like to return to Linux.
I suggested buying a Crucial MX500 SSD to replace the dying boat anchor. Because the CPU is so weak and has only 4G, I thought of Calculate Linux or Pentoo or Sabayon or Arch for a binary install. Along the way I started to get a crazy idea. I have a brand new MX500 that I was going to replace a 250GB Velociraptor with. But maybe I could actually do an install on one of my more powerful computers and send it to him for Christmas.
According to HP, the CPU is a Celeron N2830 which is a Silvermont Bay Trail-M with built-in Ivy bridge HD graphics. That's good because it tells me which video driver to build. These one lung CPU's have a unique MOVBE instruction that my AMD processors do not have. I could possibly build with march=generic mtune=silvermont or with march=silvermont turning off specific instructions? ‘silvermont’
Intel Silvermont CPU with 64-bit extensions, MOVBE, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT, AES, PCLMUL and RDRND instruction set support.
I could use one of my desktop kernel configs changing from nouveau or radeon to Ivy bridge HD. Actually I would build at least two models so that I could test it all out.
Don't know if that machine boots BIOS or EFI, Nor if Secureboot is used. Trying to find out.
Anything that I've missed? Or am I completely out of my mind on this project? |
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bunder Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5934
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:47 am Post subject: |
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I posted this in another thread recently, but I'm too lazy to find it...
I would start off with
Code: | gcc -Q --help=target -march=native
gcc -Q --help=target -march=silvermont
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and compare the two outputs, when in doubt, use the native preference, with the exception of a couple options (which I can't remember) if native chooses mtune=generic over a codename setting. _________________
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Tony0945 Watchman
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 5127 Location: Illinois, USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, bunder, but the target will be moved to the silvermont machine, so the chosen parameters have to run on both machines, but favor the target. I can't use distcc, because the target is literally a thousand miles away. It's more practical to mail the small SSD in the small box it came in than mail the whole machine both directions.
However, your suggested gcc -Q to find out the differences is a very good idea.
EDIT:
Experimentation, per Bunder's suggestion, suggests that -march=Core2 -mtune=silvermont will work on both the build and target CPU's.
It looks like the i915 video driver is the one to build, along with radeon so I can test on the target. On each machine, one module will load and the other fail. |
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AJM Apprentice
Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 189 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like an interesting project, but if you decide it's too much work I'd strongly recommend Void instead of Arch for a netbook.
I'm typing this on what must be the most underpowered Netbook of all time (HP MiniNote 2133 with a 1.2GHz VIA C7 CPU)
I resurrected this a while back and tried quite a few OS' and distros; none of the BSDs were much good as the WiFi/bluetooth chipset isn't supported and OpenBSD ran really slowly anyway. Slackware was the best I could find until I tried Void, but even Slackware was bloated in comparison.
Currently using 68M out of 1.5G RAM for X11, WindowMaker, Netsurf and a terminal and it boots and shuts down very quickly (maybe twice as fast as Slackware); no SystemD, *kits, Pulseaudio etc.
I'm a die hard Gentoo fan and have been for the best part of two decades; I wouldn't contemplate anything else for my desktop, but for a knockabout laptop which is far too low powered to compile its own OS in a bearable fashion I'm thoroughly impressed with Void. |
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Tony0945 Watchman
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 5127 Location: Illinois, USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'll keep Void in mind. I see it runs runit. That's OK. As long as it's not systemd. |
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Tony0945 Watchman
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 5127 Location: Illinois, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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So, does anyone out there have a touch screen?
I'm pretty sure both of these settings in make.conf are wrong:
Code: | #INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev"
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse"
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