SystemRescueCD quits Gentoo moves to ArchLinux

Cuong Nguyen · Apprentice Joined: 18 Jan 2018 Posts: 152

Sad news, my beloved live CD to start off any new PC just released new 6.0.0 release, based on ArchLinux.
http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/Detailed-packages-list/

Jaglover · Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:01 am Post subject:

No wgetpaste. What kind of system rescue is it. Can't pastebin logs.

GRML is back alive. May have a closer look.
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mike155 · Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:26 am Post subject:

This is a sad day for Gentoo!

I would like to know why they moved to Arch.

asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 9262

Well I'd think it is a sad day for sysresccd.

Fitzcarraldo · Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:53 am Post subject:

How disappointing.

My guess is that the developers of SystemRescueCd wanted to switch to a binary distribution to facilitate building each new release, albeit a binary distribution with more flexibility and configurability than the more mainstream releases.
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bunder · Bodhisattva Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5937

my understanding was that building the sysresccd was challenging... fearedbliss was using it to make zfs livecd's and when he retired he gave me some instructions to keep making them, but i found catalyst (to make gentoo livecds) much easier to comprehend.
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axl · Veteran Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 1146 Location: Romania

I honestly since evolved. I now have a few kernels I compiled myself, and a few netinstalls from other distros and I even made myself a new "iso" although its a pxe image for windows 7... in today technology you boot from network.

disk boot like from diskette is obsolete. boot from original cd or rewritable cd... obsolete. from dvd... obsolete. from usb drive... OBSOLETE.

we boot from network now. coz we can, and our computers can. and you can make a nice multi os menu to install any os. just need dhcp, bind and a tftp daemon.

think about it. universal network boot server. to install any os you feel like. it is easy to be done.

and much cooler than any dvd live image. in fact, a nfs4 in your face demo of linux... booted from network... no disk of any sort...

i done that.

cboldt · Veteran Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1046

I found out a hard way. I install SysRescCd on the hard drive for all machines on the LAN, to have a quick rescue environment in case I really mangle my usual work environment. The script that mounts the ISO and copies the relevant files, updates lilo.conf and so on, well that script failed spectacularly yesterday.

Now trying to figure out how to do similar with 6.0.0, if possible. The SysRescCd webpage hasn't been updated on the "install to HD" part, but the 6.0.0.iso does have some files with brief instructions. Meanwhile, 5.3.2 is there and known to work.

Cuong Nguyen · Apprentice Joined: 18 Jan 2018 Posts: 152

I have a customized sysresccd 5.3.2 with latest gcc 8.2 toolchain weekly updated with latest gentoo repo sync, still keep binary kernel as-is. The kernel itself inherited from fedora with aufs enabled. It amazing fast because all the excutables is 32-bit and equipped of all-kind of recovery, cloning tools like fsarchiver, partclone, partimage. I even use it for cloning Windows setup from PC to PC with fsarchiver and a bootable WinPE USB.

tld · Veteran Joined: 09 Dec 2003 Posts: 1845

cboldt · Veteran Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1046

5.3.2 does support 32 bit. Has 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the kernel

proteusx · Guru Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 340

Systemrescuecd has gone systemd (A.K.A. "gone to the dogs").
Just tested it. It is a load of crap.

Tony0945 · Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:50 am Post subject:

Ant P. · Watchman Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 6920

Now that it's 64-bit-only, I guess this blind version bump (and also the package *name*) is in error…

Muso · Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:12 am Post subject:

Well, looks like I'll be keeping the last Gentoo based .iso around. I don't understand the switch to Arch at all.
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xdarma · Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:11 pm Post subject:

Me too, I'm disappointed by the switch to arch and systemd.
But here I see many skills and interest on a live gentoo, maybe there is a way to integrate some administration tools in the official LiveDVD?
Maybe this forum can host a section for testing, debugging and... chats. :-)
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Amity88 · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:20 pm Post subject:

This sucks, I've always used it to install Gentoo. I'll probably keep using the older version for now.
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Naib · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:33 pm Post subject:

What is the motivation?

Packages too old? too complex? new blood into the project that strongly advocated arch
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pun_guin · Apprentice Joined: 06 Feb 2018 Posts: 204

Minus the support, of course.
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Jaglover · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:40 am Post subject:

That's a good name! But the main thing is to have it back, I've got so used to it over many years of use.
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mrbassie · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:57 pm Post subject:

Do you mean swapping the word rescue with revival/revive, or would revival be the full name?

NTU · Apprentice Joined: 17 Jul 2015 Posts: 187

Arch Linux breaks everyday, they're all ADHD when it comes to updating things. Minutes after a new version of anything comes out, a bunch of 12 year olds jump on it and push it in right away.