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curmudgeon
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:08 am    Post subject: Where do I find en_SE.UTF-8? Reply with quote

Not sure whether this goes here or in Desktop Environments (as Plasma seems involved). I absolutely detest the short date format for my locale with every fiber of my being (I am not using en_US.UTF-8 as the output below shows, but something even worse). So looking through (in Plasma) System Settings / Regional Settings / Numeric, Currency and Time Formats, I notice that (for time) en_SE shows dates and times exactly how I would like them displayed, so I made that my time setting.

On next login, however, when running a perl script, I see:

Code:

$ /path/to/some/perl.pl
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
        LANGUAGE = "",
        LC_ALL = (unset),
        LC_COLLATE = "POSIX",
        LC_TIME = "en_SE.UTF-8",
        LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to a fallback locale ("en_US.UTF-8".


So, I looked in /etc/locale.gen, added "en_SE.UTF-8 UTF-8", and ran locale.gen.

Code:

# locale-gen
 * Generating 7 locales (this might take a while) with 4 jobs
 *  (3/7) Generating en_SE.UTF-8 ...
failed to set locale!
[error] cannot open locale definition file `en_SE': No such file or directory                   [ !! ]
[...]

 * Generation complete
 * Adding locales to archive ...
incomplete set of locale files in "//usr/lib64/locale/en_SE.utf8"                               [ !! ]


Further reading the man page, I looked in /usr/share/i18n/locales/, and sure enough, it doesn't exist.

Code:

$ ls -al /usr/share/i18n/locales/

[...]

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    4638 2019-05-05 10:16:01 en_PH
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    2548 2019-05-05 10:16:01 en_SC
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    4464 2019-05-05 10:16:01 en_SG
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    3368 2019-05-05 10:16:01 en_US

[...]


I always edit all of the locale files in localedata that I might use (every time I compile glibc) to reflect what I want, but that doesn't "fix" Plasma applications. And I don't want endless warnings in a shell, because I actually do most of my work at the command line. So where do I find en_SE.UTF-8 to include it in glibc (already using a relatively recent 2.28-r6), or does some other way exist to get glibc and Plasma to work together?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/410844/ might be of help?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just bringing up a new system and had the same issue as the OP.

It seems that Gentoo's stage3 doesn't have this file:
Code:
/usr/share/i18n/locales/en_SE


But a previous computer of mine, with working en_SE locale, does have this file!

So let's look at the state of affairs on my old computer:
Code:

# equery belongs /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_US
 * Searching for /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_US ...
sys-libs/glibc-2.32-r5 (/usr/share/i18n/locales/en_US)
# equery belongs /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_SE
 * Searching for /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_SE ...
#


Note that I looked into en_US first to get a baseline. Anyhow, interesting results. It seems en_SE isn't claimed by any package at this time. If I didn't get it from somewhere else, perhaps it came from an older version of glibc and then was phased out at some point? *shrug* I can only speculate. I definitely can't remember.

But.

Because I have an en_SE file, I can use that. So I copied it over to the new machine. And it worked!

So, for any reader in the future who encounters this problem and needs a solution, even if it's a bit unconventional, here are the contents of my working `/usr/share/i18n/locales/en_SE` file:
https://pastebin.com/HrSFwZWp

The file's timestamp is 2018-05-22.

Once I had copied that file into the same path on my new machine, I ran `locale-gen` again, and got this output:
Code:

# locale-gen
 * Generating 5 locales (this might take a while) with 56 jobs
 *  (5/5) Generating C.UTF-8 ...                 [ ok ]
 *  (3/5) Generating ja_JP.UTF-8 ...             [ ok ]
 *  (2/5) Generating en_US.UTF-8 ...             [ ok ]
 *  (1/5) Generating en_SE.UTF-8 ...             [ ok ]
 *  (4/5) Generating zh_CN.UTF-8 ...             [ ok ]
 * Generation complete
 * Adding locales to archive ...                 [ ok ]
# locale -a
C
C.utf8
POSIX
en_SE.utf8
en_US.utf8
ja_JP.utf8
zh_CN.utf8


Success!

Now, I haven't tested this in any other way. The system isn't running yet at the time I am writing this post. So there might be caveats, unforeseen consequences that I haven't encountered yet. But I wanted to publish what I had before I forget about it. (Also these locale files look self-contained enough, so I suspect this will be fine.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChadJoan wrote:
I was just bringing up a new system and had the same issue as the OP.

It seems that Gentoo's stage3 doesn't have this file:
Code:
/usr/share/i18n/locales/en_SE


Just finished a basic install and ran into the same issue.
I don't really know how I ended up having en_SE in my locale (locale really messes with me every time) but it does not exit in /usr/share/i18n/locales
Quote:


So, for any reader in the future who encounters this problem and needs a solution, even if it's a bit unconventional, here are the contents of my working `/usr/share/i18n/locales/en_SE` file:
https://pastebin.com/HrSFwZWp

couldn't access your pastebin - maybe this is worth a bug report and you could provide your en-SE file there?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ran into this recently as well, and found a good explanation of how to work around this at https://pig-monkey.com/2024/02/things-i-do-for-time/

Something like:

Code:

$ sudo ln -s /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_DK /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_SE
$ echo 'en_SE.UTF-8 UTF-8' | sudo tee -a /etc/locale.gen
$ sudo locale-gen
$ sed -i 's/^LC_TIME=.*/LC_TIME=en_SE.UTF-8/' /etc/locale.conf
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