How do I "enable PPP" ?

Greylox · Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 8:00 pm Post subject: How do I "enable PPP" ?

I cant get connect to the Internet using my dialup modem.
I have successfully used this modem and ISP combination with Redhat, SuSE and Mandrake.
I installed Gentoo off of official Gentoo CDs - Stage3, GRP.
I have emerged xfree, gnome, wvdialstreams, wvdial and PPP.
I have installed the following in my kernel as modules (M)
PPP (point-to-point protocol) support
PPP support for async serial ports
PPP support for sync tty ports
PPP deflate compression
I have tried them installed as built in (*) but got a pppd code = 4 (kernel does not support PPP)

When I type wvdial I get the following.
- -> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.53
- -> Initializing modem.
- -> Sending: ATZ
ATZ
OK
- -> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
OK
- -> Modem initialized.
- -> Sending: ATDT6039722
- - > Waiting for carrier.
ATDT6039722
CONNECT 49333
- - > Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt.
We do not support Terminal Server, please use PPP.
Login:
- -> Looks like login prompt.
- -> Sending: (password)
PPP: not enabled
$
- -> Hmm a prompt. Sending ppp
PPP
PPP: not enabled
$
- -> Hmm a prompt. Sending ppp
PPP
PPP: not enabled
$
- -> Hmm a prompt. Sending ppp
PPP
PPP: not enabled
$
- -> Dont know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best.
- -> Starting pppd at Thu Nov 27 09:19:31 2003
- -> pid of pppd: 2652
- -> Disconnecting at Thu Nov 27 09:19:31 2003
- -> The PPP daemon has died: PPP negotiation failed (exit code = 10)
- -> man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail.
- -> I guess thats it for now, exiting.
- -> The PPP daemon has died. (exit code = 10)

When I look up the man pppd error code = 10 it says The PPP negotiation failed, that is, it didnt reach the point where at least one network protocol (e.g. IP) was running.

I know the modem works. The problem appears to be that PPP is not enabled, duh; it says so four times. How do I enable it? I have spent weeks (literally) going over the mans, searching Gentoo.org, searching the web, etc. It should not be this hard to get a stinking dialup modem to work. Without it, Gentoo is useless to me.
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Kernel gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r8 Gcc version 3.3.5
AMD XP 1800 266FSB CPU :1024 MB PC2700 DDR RAM
ASUS A7V8X - MX Motherboard
Chipset VIA KM400/VT8235 CE
GeForce2 TI/500 Video Card
VIA Onboard Audio
Eth0: VIA Rhine II
D-Link DCM-202 cable modem

wrc1944 · Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:31 pm Post subject:

Add this line to your /etc/ppp/pap-secrets, and chap-secrets files, including the quotes:

"your login name" * "your login password"

Also add this line to your wvdial.conf file:

Stupid Mode = 1

If it still doesn't work, try typing "wvdial &" instead of just wvdial (no quotes this time). This helps the handshake with the isp.

If still no luck, please post your wvdial.conf file. I would also try re-emerging all ppp related stuff, with the modem on, and running wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf again.

My ppp kernel stuff is done like this, with all my kernels, 2.4, or 2.6 versions, and kppp dialer and wvdial work fine:

CONFIG_PLIP=y
CONFIG_PPP=y
CONFIG_PPP_MULTILINK=y
CONFIG_PPP_FILTER=y
CONFIG_PPP_ASYNC=y
CONFIG_PPP_SYNC_TTY=y
CONFIG_PPP_DEFLATE=y
CONFIG_PPP_BSDCOMP=y

wrc1944
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Greylox · Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:27 pm Post subject:

wrc1944,

Your advice worked, thank you very much. I did have to modify the line:

"your login name" * "your login password" a little. I had to enter tab on both sides of the * so that it read:

"your login name"[tab]*[tab]"your login password" before it worked but now I can at least hook up.

I've been able to ping my nameserver and google and other sites. However, I can not get my browser (mozilla-firebird) to work unless I type in the DNS (216.239.39.99 for google) but that is another thread.

Thanks again.
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Kernel gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r8 Gcc version 3.3.5
AMD XP 1800 266FSB CPU :1024 MB PC2700 DDR RAM
ASUS A7V8X - MX Motherboard
Chipset VIA KM400/VT8235 CE
GeForce2 TI/500 Video Card
VIA Onboard Audio
Eth0: VIA Rhine II
D-Link DCM-202 cable modem

wrc1944 · Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:10 pm Post subject:

Greylox,
Do any other browsers work OK?

How did you install Mozilla-firebird? With portage? That should have pulled in any dependencies. In other distros, including Gentoo, sometimes I've run firebird by just downloading the linux version to it own directory "firebird" in my home directory, then extracting it there, where it creates it's own Moziila-Firebird directory, with all of Firebird there. It also creates it's own .files (hidden config files) in my home directory.

Then you can start Firebird by clicking the MozillaFirebird shell script icon in the Mozilla-Firebird directory ( make a desktop shortcut icon to this script).

If you installed with Gentoo portage, you should find the shell script in /usr/bin, and start it from there.

wrc1944
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Greylox · Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:11 pm Post subject:

Thanks again for your help with my previous problem. Until I get Gentoo up and running I can only access the web through a separate windows machine. This makes downloading any Linux programs rather impractical. The Gentoo install I'm working on comes from the CDs I bought from the Gentoo website (I did a stage3, GRP install) and I am using x and gnome. The CDs included Firebird which I copied then did an "emerge -k mozilla-firebird". Regrettably the only access I have to the 'net is through a dialup modem, If I can get Firebird running I'll be ok. The odd thing is that I can enter the DNS "216.239.41.99" and Firebird takes me to the website; but when I enter "google" It gets confused. And the sales pitch said Gentoo included everything I would need.

Question: after I emerge -k ##### do I need to do something else? An update of some sort? I've been at this for about a month now and documentation is sketchy at best. Oh well, I shall prevail and I'm learning a lot too.
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Kernel gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r8 Gcc version 3.3.5
AMD XP 1800 266FSB CPU :1024 MB PC2700 DDR RAM
ASUS A7V8X - MX Motherboard
Chipset VIA KM400/VT8235 CE
GeForce2 TI/500 Video Card
VIA Onboard Audio
Eth0: VIA Rhine II
D-Link DCM-202 cable modem

Greylox · Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:30 pm Post subject:

I had sent the previous as a PM to wrc1944 and wrc1944 was kind enough to send this reply. I am adding these to this dialog because it might help other frustrated dialup users.

wrc1944 replied

I would suggest installing kde from the Gentoo discs, like you did gnome, and then you should have kppp, the kde internet dialer, which is really easy to setup. Just open kppp, and then run the setup button, and fill in your info. Then you should have internet access.

Do you have internet access from a console, with wvdial?

Did you copy over your /etc/resolv.conf file when installing Gentoo?
You may need to edit it.

It should look something like mine, shown below. The first two lines are my isp's domain name.The first nameserver line in the local machine, and should be the same for you. The next two nameserver lines are my isp's primary and secondary addresses. You would fill in yours instead. The last two nameserver lines aren't created by the user (you), but are written each time you log in, dynamically, in case your isp changes them.
------------------------------------
search access4less.net
#search access4less.net
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 170.147.49.55
nameserver 170.147.113.54
nameserver 170.147.49.55 #kppp temp entry
nameserver 170.147.113.54 #kppp temp entry

So- if you don't have a /etc/resolv.conf file, create one (plain text file), and fill in the proper info for your isp, like I have done for mine.

Let me know if that helps, or if you even have that file- it's needed to connect with. Also, post your messages in the forum and not only PM to me, as other people can probably help more than me- (network stuff is one of my weakest linux skills so far)

One question: is the US Robotics Performance Pro modem (USR5610B) an external hardware modem (not a winmodem) on serial port 1 (com 1)?

Another way is, if you have a Knoppix Linux live cd, boot from it, and use the /etc/resolv.conf file it generates when it detects your modem in your Gentoo /etc partiton.Just copy it over, or write down the isp addresses and fill them in later in Gentoo. If you can boot from a knoppix cd, and connect with kppp after filling in the info all while in the Knoppix Linux, this is probably the problem.

wrc1944
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Kernel gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r8 Gcc version 3.3.5
AMD XP 1800 266FSB CPU :1024 MB PC2700 DDR RAM
ASUS A7V8X - MX Motherboard
Chipset VIA KM400/VT8235 CE
GeForce2 TI/500 Video Card
VIA Onboard Audio
Eth0: VIA Rhine II
D-Link DCM-202 cable modem

wrc1944 · Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 5:47 pm Post subject:

Greylox,
I must be missing something, as I don't understand as to your only internet access being on a separate windows machine. If wvdial works (wvdial likes it's own individual console), after connecting with wvdial, you should be able to open another console as root, and do

emerge sync

and this will connect to a Gentoo mirror, and update your portage tree (will take a while). Then you could emerge anything you like from the Gentoo mirrors with emerge. (always use emerge -p "your package" first, to see what you are getting into).

Read up on man portage, and read up on how to use etc-update before you actually do it. Good Tip: Don't update etc/fstab, or /etc/group with etc-update- you might not be able to boot! Rule of thumb: Don't automatically update any file you know you have edited yourself.New Gentoo users should keep a Knoppix rescue disk handy.

Question: Can you do an emerge sync successfully?

wrc1944
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kernel-6.12.8 USE=experimental python3_12.7-final-0

Greylox · Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:45 pm Post subject:

wrc1944

When I said I could only access the 'net from a separate windows machine I ment that until I got my Gentoo box working I had to use the computer at work (windows). I have never tried to do anything on the 'net without a browser, I didn't think you could, I told you I was learning a lot.

To answer a few of your questions:

Do I have 'net access from a console, with wvdial - YES, I can "ping 216.239.39.99 -c 3
3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packets lost, time 1099ms

Did I copy /etc/resolv.conf - YES and it looks like the example you gave, the first three lines anyway.

The US Robotics Performance Pro is an internal hardware modem. Yes I'm sure. It works well with SuSE, Redhat and Mandrake.

Can I emerge sync successfully - No

emerge sync gets me the following:

rsync: getaddinfo: rsync.gentoo.org 873: temporary failure in name resolutioon

rysnc error: error in socket IO (code 10) at client server.c (83)

then I got four lines of error message part of wich said to try "emerge-websync" if all else fails (paraphrased)

After three failed attempts at "emerge sync" I tried "emerge-websync". Now my terminal says "fetching most recent snapshot"

Now I believe it is done fetching but I have to go for today I'll do the suggested reading tonight at home.
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Kernel gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r8 Gcc version 3.3.5
AMD XP 1800 266FSB CPU :1024 MB PC2700 DDR RAM
ASUS A7V8X - MX Motherboard
Chipset VIA KM400/VT8235 CE
GeForce2 TI/500 Video Card
VIA Onboard Audio
Eth0: VIA Rhine II
D-Link DCM-202 cable modem

wrc1944 · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:40 am Post subject:

OK- it sounds like you got websync to work, and you got the latest portage tree snapshot.If you have wvdial working,you should be able to start emerging Gentoo updates, which is the objective if you did a GRP install- it is pretty much out of date.

Assuming you edited your /etc/make.conf file properly for your customized settings. My cflags for an athlon-xp 1700 are as follows- never had a problem with them so far:

CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fprefetch-loop-arrays -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-addr -falign-functions=16 -falign-loops=16 -falign-jumps=16 -falign-labels=1"

As a test (as well as the first thing I would do anyway),I would start by connecting with wvdial, then opening a new console, su to root, and try updating the main system files, with:

emerge -up system

You should get a "calculating dependencies," and then a list of packages to be updated. (If you get errors like before, something is wrong).If you do get a list of update candidates, you can then do the actual fetching with:

emerge -f system

This will connect to a mirror, and download the tarballs to /usr/portage/distfiles, and then you would go offline (wvdial ctrl-c), and do your actual updating and compiling with:

emerge -uk system

With dialup, it's generally best to use emerge -f and get the required tarballs in distfiles first, THEN do the actual compiling offline. This is going to take many, many hours, but if you get this far, and you actually can successfully do the previous emerge -f system, you are set up good, and then you can start gradually re-compiling the old GRP installation to the latest updated Gentoo version, as well as adding any new packages you might need, which will be basic things like utilities, and programs not on the GRP cd's.

Let us know if you get this far, or have errors.If you can't get past emerge -up system, we need to figure out why you aren't accessing the Gentoo mirror. If you compile your system update OK, remember to be extremely careful with etc-update. In fact, before you do any etc-updates, back up at least /etc/fstab, group, and rc.conf.

There's another way to get Gentoo installed and running with a Knoppix live cd, where you use it to get net access and download stuff, and chroot over to the Gentoo / partition, but let's try the normal way first.

(Any of you experts out there please feel free to chime in with any advice, as I'm certainly NOT an expert.)

wrc1944
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OpenRC Gentoo ~amd64 plasma, glibc-2.40-r5, gcc-14
kernel-6.12.8 USE=experimental python3_12.7-final-0

wrc1944 · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:42 am Post subject:

Sorry- meant emerge -uf system, not emerge -f system.
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wrc1944 · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:48 am Post subject:

Hmmm. Just read your post again on the resolv.conf file, about "the first 3 lines" of yours being "like" mine.

You need at least 3, preferably 4.

1. search "your isp domain"
2. nameserver 127.0.0.1"
3. nameserver "your primary isp address"
4. nameserver "your secondary isp address"

(no quotes, of course)

Is this the way your file is?

wrc1944
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kernel-6.12.8 USE=experimental python3_12.7-final-0

wrc1944 · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 2:53 pm Post subject:

Ran across this about emerge sync- I don't think you really got the portage update snapshot:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=111507&highlight=

Since it's exactly the errors you get, it seems to confirm your problem is probably a misconfigured resolv.conf file.

wrc1944
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kernel-6.12.8 USE=experimental python3_12.7-final-0

Greylox · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:09 pm Post subject:

my /etc/resolv.conf looks exactly like this:

1. search joiinternet.com
2. nameserver 127.0.0.1
3. nameserver 64.63.205.74
4. nameserver 64.63.205.235

exactly like that

My IP address is dynamic and those are the lowest and the highest I've been assigned over the last few days.

I changed my /etc/make.conf to match yours exactly.

greylox # emerge -up system<from here>

These are the packages that I would emerge, in order:

Calculating system dependencies ...done!

greylox # <to here>.......takes 2 seconds

Gentoo said they delayed shiping the CDs I'm using because they wanted to include the latest updates.

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Kernel gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r8 Gcc version 3.3.5
AMD XP 1800 266FSB CPU :1024 MB PC2700 DDR RAM
ASUS A7V8X - MX Motherboard
Chipset VIA KM400/VT8235 CE
GeForce2 TI/500 Video Card
VIA Onboard Audio
Eth0: VIA Rhine II
D-Link DCM-202 cable modem

wrc1944 · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:00 pm Post subject:

Seems impossible you didn't get any new update candidates with emerge -up system after only using the GRP install. This must mean you never got the updated portage tree with emerge sync or emerge websync, and are still using the old original portage tree. Since you have those system package versions already installed from the GRP disk, emerge -up system is only reading the old portage tree.

We need to figure out why emerge sync isn't working. You don't have 1.,2.,3.,4. in front of the lines in resolv.conf, do you? I mean it does look exactly like this- correct?

search joiinternet.com
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 64.63.205.74
nameserver 64.63.205.235

and your isp numbers are correct, and wvdial is definitely connecting you to the internet?

After running wvdial, and opening a 2nd console,as root, try this:

emerge -p dillo

You should get:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild N ] net-www/dillo-0.7.3-r3
-------------------------------------------
(Dillo is an extremely small graphical internet browser- if you have the old portage tree, your dillo ebuild version might be different).

Then do:

emerge -f dillo

You should connect to a Gentoo mirror, and it should begin downloading the dillo tarball to /usr/portage/distfiles.Then youcould do emerge -k dillo, and have a minimal browser up very quickly, and go on from there. If it doesn't, you must not be connected with wvdial, and/or the resolv.config is not correct, or some other configuration file is not right.

Please post back with the results.

One other thought: Maybe there is a config file we aren't aware of that is preventing ppp from asigning the dynamic isp address? How about an expert commenting on this?

wrc1944
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kernel-6.12.8 USE=experimental python3_12.7-final-0

wrc1944 · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:21 pm Post subject:

I just remembered, I have another resolv.conf file called /etc/ppp/resolv.conf.

It has my two isp nameserver line in it also, just like in the other /etc/resolv.conf file.

Check and see if you have that file too. If not, create one, and type in your isp nameserver addresses. That might be the whole problem, if you indeed don't have that file correct, or it is missing.

All I have in the /etc/ppp/resolv.conf file is the two nameserver lines, for the isp- nothing else.Of course use your own numbers.

nameserver 170.147.49.55
nameserver 170.147.113.54

wrc1944
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OpenRC Gentoo ~amd64 plasma, glibc-2.40-r5, gcc-14
kernel-6.12.8 USE=experimental python3_12.7-final-0

Greylox · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:26 pm Post subject:

Sorry to take so long getting back to this; I've been really busy. It turns out that the DNS numbers I got from my ISPs "tech support" were wrong. A fellow member of my LUG (Linux User Group) showed me how to get to correct DNS Numbers without going to your ISP; unfortunately it requires a win98 machine.

Create a dialup connection using the ISP you want the DNS for and logon. Click start, click run and type "winipcfg" click OK, click more info and look for the line that says DNS servers Click the box to the reight of that line and you'll get a second DNS (I did). Now plug those numbers in the two resolv.conf files we've been talking about and your set.

I'm on my way to getting all the newest downloads.
Thanks for all the help.
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Kernel gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r8 Gcc version 3.3.5
AMD XP 1800 266FSB CPU :1024 MB PC2700 DDR RAM
ASUS A7V8X - MX Motherboard
Chipset VIA KM400/VT8235 CE
GeForce2 TI/500 Video Card
VIA Onboard Audio
Eth0: VIA Rhine II
D-Link DCM-202 cable modem