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vespaman
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:20 pm    Post subject: About to get a new box - gpu support... Reply with quote

Hi Guys

I have been using intel built-in graphics for about ten year now, but need get a new box @work, where I'm considering a Ryzen 7 or 9, so I need a real GPU, which I have actually missed especially in 3d windows (virtualbox) apps (cad).

Considering that I don't need gaming performance at work, my focus is stability and minimum troubles instead. So I'm looking for advice about driver support - does one of them standout in any way, or are they equal in this respect nowadays?

I'm thinking mainstream RX590/GTX1660 class cards.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avoid Nvidia, use AMD.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was a very clear advice :D
Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a cheap low power Radeon card and use the built-in kernel driver.
This is the latest that I bought. Apparently it's obsolete now (two years later). Buy something in the low 200's (model number)
No sense in consuming power and generating heat if you are not gaming.
I think MSI makes nice cards too, and EVGA, but I don't know if EVGA is only nvidia,
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-r5-230-gv-r523d3-1gl/p/N82E16814125841?Item=N82E16814125841

Linux AMD Radeon drivers seem more up to date than nvidia nouveau drivers. Probably a matter of cooperation between the company and the kernel team.


EDIT:
A quick check at MSI's site: https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/R5-230-1GD3H
Only consumes 15W
Don't know the price but it must be cheap.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good advice, low power sounds nice (literally as well as consumption). I'll see what I can dig up in the stores around here. A quick web search gave 560 as the lowest end available, but at least they seem to be way better in this respect than the 590.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vespaman,

What asturm said.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
 ~ $ sensors
amdgpu-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
vddgfx:      862.00 mV
fan1:         999 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, max = 3500 RPM)
edge:         +37.0°C  (crit = +97.0°C, hyst = -273.1°C)
power1:        7.10 W  (cap =  36.00 W)

This is on an RX550. Idle power of 4-7W, +5 with two screens, I've never seen it reach 25 even when throwing everything I can at it.

The only problem I've had with it is this bug, but it looks like it's almost fixed now.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice, Ant P.
Code:
MSI ~ # sensors
radeon-pci-1c00
Adapter: PCI adapter
RS230:        +38.0°C  (crit = +120.0°C, hyst = +90.0°C)

MSI ~ # lspci

1c:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM]


How did you get lm-sensors to output the fan and power info?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a convection cooled (no fans) card.

Code:
amdgpu-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
vddgfx:        1.02 V 
edge:         +47.0°C  (crit = +94.0°C, hyst = -273.1°C)
power1:       12.03 W  (cap =  50.00 W)

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Baffin [Radeon RX 460/560D / Pro 450/455/460/555/555X/560/560X] (rev cf)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a small power usage measurement with my GTX 1060 card, nvidia-smi tool, Gnome 3 and two screen setup.

10-15W idle, office work, browser, video
Sometimes you get 30W lockup peaks.
60W Blender cuda rendering
70-100W Dota 2 dynamic scene rendering
100-120W (all power you can get) Unigine Superposition benchmark

Code:
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 435.21       Driver Version: 435.21       CUDA Version: 10.1     |
|-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name        Persistence-M| Bus-Id        Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp  Perf  Pwr:Usage/Cap|         Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
|   0  GeForce GTX 106...  Off  | 00000000:01:00.0  On |                  N/A |
|  0%   48C    P8    12W / 120W |    398MiB /  6077MiB |      2%      Default |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
                                                                               
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes:                                                       GPU Memory |
|  GPU       PID   Type   Process name                             Usage      |
|=============================================================================|
|    0      5051      G   /usr/bin/X                                    24MiB |
|    0      5082      G   /usr/bin/gnome-shell                          43MiB |
|    0      5272      G   /usr/bin/X                                   134MiB |
|    0      5335      G   /usr/bin/gnome-shell                         183MiB |
|    0      5760      G   ...uest-channel-token=15483247882097981374     9MiB |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RTX 2060 5W on idle

Code:
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 440.31       Driver Version: 440.31       CUDA Version: 10.2     |
|-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name        Persistence-M| Bus-Id        Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp  Perf  Pwr:Usage/Cap|         Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
|   0  GeForce RTX 2060    Off  | 00000000:07:00.0  On |                  N/A |
| 29%   31C    P8     5W / 190W |    732MiB /  5931MiB |      3%      Default |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+


average 15W watching youtube in 4K
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I use a Radeon RX 570 with amdgpu driver built from kernel source.
It's possible to limit maximum power consumption and average fan speed via kernel /sys interface.
This is my /etc/local.d/10-amdgpu.start
Code:

#!/bin/bash

# Set max gpu power to 99W (default for RX-570 is 138W)
echo "99000000" > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/hwmon/hwmon2/power1_cap

# Set average fan speed to 99 (max is 256)
echo "99" > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/hwmon/hwmon2/pwm1
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