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vespaman Guru
Joined: 28 Aug 2002 Posts: 356 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:20 pm Post subject: About to get a new box - gpu support... |
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Hi Guys
I have been using intel built-in graphics for about ten year now, but need get a new box @work, where I'm considering a Ryzen 7 or 9, so I need a real GPU, which I have actually missed especially in 3d windows (virtualbox) apps (cad).
Considering that I don't need gaming performance at work, my focus is stability and minimum troubles instead. So I'm looking for advice about driver support - does one of them standout in any way, or are they equal in this respect nowadays?
I'm thinking mainstream RX590/GTX1660 class cards. |
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asturm Developer
Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 8956
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Avoid Nvidia, use AMD. |
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vespaman Guru
Joined: 28 Aug 2002 Posts: 356 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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That was a very clear advice
Thanks! |
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Tony0945 Watchman
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 5127 Location: Illinois, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Buy a cheap low power Radeon card and use the built-in kernel driver.
This is the latest that I bought. Apparently it's obsolete now (two years later). Buy something in the low 200's (model number)
No sense in consuming power and generating heat if you are not gaming.
I think MSI makes nice cards too, and EVGA, but I don't know if EVGA is only nvidia,
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-r5-230-gv-r523d3-1gl/p/N82E16814125841?Item=N82E16814125841
Linux AMD Radeon drivers seem more up to date than nvidia nouveau drivers. Probably a matter of cooperation between the company and the kernel team.
EDIT:
A quick check at MSI's site: https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/R5-230-1GD3H
Only consumes 15W
Don't know the price but it must be cheap. |
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vespaman Guru
Joined: 28 Aug 2002 Posts: 356 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Good advice, low power sounds nice (literally as well as consumption). I'll see what I can dig up in the stores around here. A quick web search gave 560 as the lowest end available, but at least they seem to be way better in this respect than the 590.
Thanks! |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54421 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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vespaman,
What asturm said. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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Ant P. Watchman
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 6920
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Code: | ~ $ sensors
amdgpu-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
vddgfx: 862.00 mV
fan1: 999 RPM (min = 0 RPM, max = 3500 RPM)
edge: +37.0°C (crit = +97.0°C, hyst = -273.1°C)
power1: 7.10 W (cap = 36.00 W) |
This is on an RX550. Idle power of 4-7W, +5 with two screens, I've never seen it reach 25 even when throwing everything I can at it.
The only problem I've had with it is this bug, but it looks like it's almost fixed now. |
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Tony0945 Watchman
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 5127 Location: Illinois, USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Very nice, Ant P.
Code: | MSI ~ # sensors
radeon-pci-1c00
Adapter: PCI adapter
RS230: +38.0°C (crit = +120.0°C, hyst = +90.0°C)
MSI ~ # lspci
1c:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM]
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How did you get lm-sensors to output the fan and power info? |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54421 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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From a convection cooled (no fans) card.
Code: | amdgpu-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
vddgfx: 1.02 V
edge: +47.0°C (crit = +94.0°C, hyst = -273.1°C)
power1: 12.03 W (cap = 50.00 W)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Baffin [Radeon RX 460/560D / Pro 450/455/460/555/555X/560/560X] (rev cf) |
_________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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BlueManCZ n00b
Joined: 11 Mar 2017 Posts: 22
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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I made a small power usage measurement with my GTX 1060 card, nvidia-smi tool, Gnome 3 and two screen setup.
10-15W idle, office work, browser, video
Sometimes you get 30W lockup peaks.
60W Blender cuda rendering
70-100W Dota 2 dynamic scene rendering
100-120W (all power you can get) Unigine Superposition benchmark
Code: | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 435.21 Driver Version: 435.21 CUDA Version: 10.1 |
|-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU Name Persistence-M| Bus-Id Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan Temp Perf Pwr:Usage/Cap| Memory-Usage | GPU-Util Compute M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
| 0 GeForce GTX 106... Off | 00000000:01:00.0 On | N/A |
| 0% 48C P8 12W / 120W | 398MiB / 6077MiB | 2% Default |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes: GPU Memory |
| GPU PID Type Process name Usage |
|=============================================================================|
| 0 5051 G /usr/bin/X 24MiB |
| 0 5082 G /usr/bin/gnome-shell 43MiB |
| 0 5272 G /usr/bin/X 134MiB |
| 0 5335 G /usr/bin/gnome-shell 183MiB |
| 0 5760 G ...uest-channel-token=15483247882097981374 9MiB |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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mir3x Guru
Joined: 02 Jun 2012 Posts: 455
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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RTX 2060 5W on idle
Code: | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 440.31 Driver Version: 440.31 CUDA Version: 10.2 |
|-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU Name Persistence-M| Bus-Id Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan Temp Perf Pwr:Usage/Cap| Memory-Usage | GPU-Util Compute M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
| 0 GeForce RTX 2060 Off | 00000000:07:00.0 On | N/A |
| 29% 31C P8 5W / 190W | 732MiB / 5931MiB | 3% Default |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+ |
average 15W watching youtube in 4K _________________ Sent from Windows |
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xdarma l33t
Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 720 Location: tra veneto e friuli (italy)
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, I use a Radeon RX 570 with amdgpu driver built from kernel source.
It's possible to limit maximum power consumption and average fan speed via kernel /sys interface.
This is my /etc/local.d/10-amdgpu.start
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#!/bin/bash
# Set max gpu power to 99W (default for RX-570 is 138W)
echo "99000000" > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/hwmon/hwmon2/power1_cap
# Set average fan speed to 99 (max is 256)
echo "99" > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/hwmon/hwmon2/pwm1
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