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Gatak Apprentice
Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 174
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:38 pm Post subject: Suggestion: make forum more mobile friendly |
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I often browse the forums on my Android phone, and I think a lot of people are doing this nowadays. . The problem is that the forum is not very mobile friendly. Text is small, there is scrolling in all directions, etc.
Is Gentoo working on improving the forum with responsive, or at least mobile friendly themes?. I think newer versions of PhpBB has support for responsive themes. Otherwise I think that NodeBB is pretty good. It has nifty support for autosave, cut and paste, code highlights, paste images from clipboard, etc. example at https://community.nodebb.org . There is also a migration from PhpBB to NodeBB available. https://community.nodebb.org/topic/2635/migrating-from-phpbb/2
Perhaps it would help the community if more mobile users could use the forum?
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fedeliallalinea Administrator
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8342202.html#8342202 wrote: | Chiitoo wrote: | Fixed in phpBB3. :]
(It's probably not worth the time and effort to fix in phpBB2 at this point in time, and yes, we are going to upgrade... soon™.) |
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Gatak Apprentice
Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 174
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Soon ™
I guess they have their reasons. Though I much prefer them to switch to something more modern. |
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Chiitoo Administrator
Joined: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 2737 Location: Here and Away Again
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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I'm repeating myself a bit here, but while NodeBB may be modern and all that, it would almost certainly turn away some users, or at least make them unhappy:
nodebb wrote: | Your browser does not seem to support JavaScript. As a result, your viewing experience will be diminished, and you may not be able to execute some actions.
Please download a browser that supports JavaScript, or enable it if it's disabled (i.e. NoScript). |
I personally don't like how it looks and functions at all, and I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people like me here in that regard. :]
That is, I don't quite see us changing to /that/ in any of the nearby futures... but that's me.
Thanks for the suggestion, though! _________________ Kindest of regardses. |
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Ant P. Watchman
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 6920
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Yikes. Imposing a Javascript requirement on a forum that's currently accessible from `links -g` on the install CD is a complete non-starter. |
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Anon-E-moose Watchman
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Based on node.js
*yikes* _________________ UM780, 6.1 zen kernel, gcc 13, profile 17.0 (custom bare multilib), openrc, wayland |
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Hu Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 22746
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:00 am Post subject: |
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I would not use a forum based on NodeBB. From clicking around the first few pages, I see that it uses broken Unicode for icons (probably a blocked webfont). I see the NoScript banner that Chiitoo cited. I see that various buttons don't work (probably because Javascript is correctly disabled on unknown sites). Three strikes in the first two pages says to me that whoever designed this has bought entirely into the fiction that "Web 2.0" is a good thing, and there are probably more surprises lurking if I bothered to dig deeper. I concur with Chiitoo and Ant P.: though that forum might provide some hints about design (though I don't think even that looks good), the implementation is not appropriate for the Gentoo forums.
I can see why someone might want to read the forum on a mobile device (especially if they're trying to find responses about how to fix a broken computer), but for how I use the forum, I need better keyboard input than a mobile can readily provide. I use a computer (sometimes tower, sometimes laptop) with a physical keyboard in order to post. |
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Gatak Apprentice
Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 174
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:35 am Post subject: |
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It was just a suggestion
I agree with the Javascript issues too.
I do use my phone both for forum usage and server admin over ssh quite a lot more than from the computer.
All I really want is a little better mobile layout.
Here is a screenshot on how this post looks like at the moment (is there no way to upload to the forum?). https://pasteboard.co/IFyBIky.jpg |
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Ionen Developer
Joined: 06 Dec 2018 Posts: 2872
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Surely there has to be a viable solution that can satisfy normal, mobile, no-script, and text-only (perhaps with different interface that share a same posts database). I imagine it may end up being a lot of work to convert and put things together though. |
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fedeliallalinea Administrator
Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Posts: 31288 Location: here
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Gatak wrote: | All I really want is a little better mobile layout. |
phpbb3 solve the problem _________________ Questions are guaranteed in life; Answers aren't. |
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Gatak Apprentice
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Then I will be patient a little longer. |
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szatox Advocate
Joined: 27 Aug 2013 Posts: 3465
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Well...
Just one point from me:
Keep it simple, please, please, please!
It's just a bunch of documents and forms. There is not a single thing that requires client-side scripts. |
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steve_v Guru
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 412 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Another voice for "keep it simple" over here.
I have no problem with making this forum more "mobile friendly", but it needs to remain unusable and responsive in links/lynx/other simple browsers.
I have seen a great many forums transition to "modern" and "reactive" platforms, and the result has invariably been a dog-slow mess that doesn't work properly with javascript disabled.
Gatak wrote: | I agree with the Javascript issues too...
Here is a screenshot on how this post looks like at the moment (is there no way to upload to the forum?). https://pasteboard.co/IFyBIky.jpg |
Is there no way to see your image without a bunch of javascript? _________________ Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action. Four times is Official GNOME Policy. |
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fturco Veteran
Joined: 08 Dec 2010 Posts: 1181
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:38 am Post subject: |
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I also vote for a forum software without any JavaScript code. My dream of reducing the size of my browser's JavaScript whitelist to zero will be easier in that case. |
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Gatak Apprentice
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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steve_v wrote: | Gatak wrote: | I agree with the Javascript issues too...
Here is a screenshot on how this post looks like at the moment (is there no way to upload to the forum?). https://pasteboard.co/IFyBIky.jpg |
Is there no way to see your image without a bunch of javascript? | It will when the forum has support for attached images |
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Goverp Advocate
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:37 am Post subject: |
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++javascript=no
I just wish we could ask duckduckgo/google/isthereanyoneelse for javashit-free sites _________________ Greybeard |
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pjp Administrator
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Goverp wrote: | ++javascript=no
I just wish we could ask duckduckgo/google/isthereanyoneelse for javashit-free sites | https://duckduckgo.com/html/ _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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Goverp Advocate
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:47 am Post subject: |
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pjp, thanks, but not what I meant. I want a search engine that filters out web pages containing JavaScript. OK, there would be almost nothing left, but perhaps that's good.
What's really needed is a training course for web newbies "JavaScript - Just Say No", but of course all the "easy website builder" packages push packaged JS as if it were added value, rather than bloat. _________________ Greybeard |
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pjp Administrator
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superduperuser n00b
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:09 am Post subject: |
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I registered just to make this suggestion. Browsing from mobile now and it's pretty thumb intensive with scrolling side to side and zooming in and oit _________________ help |
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Hund Apprentice
Joined: 18 Jul 2016 Posts: 218 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:26 am Post subject: |
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Any news about the update to version 3? And is there any reason you have waited 12 years to update to version 3? :) _________________ Collect memories, not things. |
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