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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:02 pm    Post subject: Problem X-Server / XF86Config for ATI Radeon 9800 Reply with quote

Hi folks,

at the start: I am a Gentoo newbie, but advanced SuSE-user. Have made it after 3 nights/days to get Gentoo as third OS besides WinXP and SuSE-Linux in MultiBoot running, but be honest: the effort to install and configure a Gentoo is really hair-rising !

Now my problem blocking me:

Gentoo on console running, but I can't get X-Server as basis for KDE running.
Have a ATI Radeon 9800, and that was even in SuSE not trivial, the more with 3D.
But now here in Gentoo: nothing helpful in docs or Forums / Newsgroups found.
After long trials to reduce XF86Config to the minimum and/or to use experiences out of SuSE -XF86Config, I manage to get X-Server starting, but it hangs up with a giant's resolution into Nirvana....
In SuSE I could use Framebuffer Device.
How could that look like in Gentoo-XF86Config ??

Who thinks he could help ? I could send XF86Configs from my Gentoo und SuSE via email for checking senden...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Axel Burwitz wrote:
But now here in Gentoo: nothing helpful in docs or Forums / Newsgroups found.

Well, there are lots of Radeon threads around on the forums. For a start, take a look at this

Quick installation summary:
  • setup your kernel config correctly - no DRM support, MTRR support, and AGP support compiled as modules. Recompile & reboot if you need to.
  • Check that the /usr/src/linux symlink is pointing to your current kernel sources, then do this:
    Code:
    opengl-update xfree
    ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge ati-drivers
    opengl-update ati

  • Run the "fglrxconfig" program to create an XF86Config-4 file.
  • Add kernel AGP modules and "fglrx" to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.x, where x is the kernel version you're using.
  • Start X and see if it works :)

I also have a 9800 Pro - my XF86Config is here if you want to see it.

If you still have problems post them here.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Problem X-Server / XF86Config for ATI Radeon 9800 Reply with quote

Hey thanks for the fast reply !

Will need some time try all this, if I still have trouble I get back to you,

regards

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: Problem X-Server / XF86Config for ATI Radeon 9800 Reply with quote

Hi Wedge_ ,

now, have done as you have described:
- changed and compiled kernel
- reboot
- set symlink
- opengl-updates and emerging ati-drivers
- created XF86Config-4 by fglrxconfig
- added "agpgart" and "fglrx" into my /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r6
- startx

and still x-server seems to start but freezes with this typical little "X" in the middle !

First try with AGP in kernel: After "startx", freeze and ctrl+alt+backspace it gives :
" ...
Using configfile:"/etc/X11//XF86Config-4"
Using vt7
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
X Connection to :0.0 broken....."

Second try with AGP as module: After "startx", freeze and ctrl+alt+backspace it gives :
"...
Using configfile:"/etc/X11//XF86Config-4"
Using vt7
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o : init_module No such device
.....
X Connection to :0.0 broken....."

When I checked with "find", it showed this agpgart.o in this dir...


Thanks a lot in advance for your help,

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Axel Burwitz wrote:
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o : init_module No such device

I believe that means your AGP chipset isn't being detected properly. Which motherboard are you using? You may want to upgrade to the latest gentoo-sources, which are based on 2.4.22 rather 2.4.20, and therefore will have more up to date AGP support. Also, you may want to set your mouse settings manually, or copy them from a working XF86Config - fglrxconfig won't always get it right, and that might be why the mouse pointer is frozen.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/char/agp/ag Reply with quote

I can't get the precise name from anywhere without opening the PC..
I think it's an Intel board, I have a quite high end ( for me..) new Dell Dimension 8300 with P4, latest AGP + IEEE + S-ATA (which makes life tough in Linux) + IDE + lots of USB .....

OK, I will try with an new kernel,

rgds
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Axel Burwitz wrote:
I can't get the precise name from anywhere without opening the PC..

You may be able to find some information in the output from "lspci -v".
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Problem X-Server / XF86Config for ATI Radeon 9800 Reply with quote

Hi !

Now:
-after hours and hours configuring and compiling kernel 2.4.22, and with even worse results,
-after spending more hours configuring and compiling kernel 2.6.0 (because accidently I read that kernel 2.4 can't cope with AGP 8x), and even worse worse results ( additional FATAL messages modules agpgart and fglrx not found.., regardless what I do and change
-with by far unsufficient documentation
-with reading carefully the forums how many people spending time with errors and trouble,
- I think that's it with Gentoo for me !

Gentoo has a very attractive idea but is still too far away from a practical handling for people who want to USE linux and not spend their time in technical-masochistic want-to-be-freak try-and-error trials to simply get things running....

I am just downloading Fedora Core 1 , and I am quite optimistic that this will work, because of the Red Hat basis combined with technical avantgarde project approach. Will see

Bye
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I hope things work better with Fedora, but there's no guarantee that they will. It sounds like your problems are down to not having the proper kernel configuration. 2.6 would probably have worked, you maybe just hadn't set things up properly. For example, did you remember to update the /usr/src/linux symlink after moving to 2.6? If not, then the fglrx module would be built against the old 2.4 kernel and modprobe won't be able to find it.

Good luck with Fedora.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what mobo are you using?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:32 pm    Post subject: Motherboard Reply with quote

Hi !

yes, I am prtetty sure I did the symlink, and
lspci -v gives:


00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82875P Memory Controller Hub (rev 02)
Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0157
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Capabilities: [e4] #09 [2106]
Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 3.0

00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82875P Processor to AGP Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 64
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=64
I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000dfff
Memory behind bridge: fe900000-feafffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: e8000000-f7ffffff

00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0157
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
I/O ports at ff80 [size=32]

00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0157
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
I/O ports at ff60 [size=32]

00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0157
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9
I/O ports at ff40 [size=32]

00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0157
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
I/O ports at ff20 [size=32]

00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB2 (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0157
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5
Memory at ffa80800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [58] #0a [20a0]

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev c2) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=32
I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff
Memory behind bridge: fe800000-fe8fffff

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0157
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9
I/O ports at <ignored>
I/O ports at <ignored>
I/O ports at <ignored>
I/O ports at <ignored>
I/O ports at ffa0 [size=16]
Memory at febffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]

00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO])
Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0157
Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9
I/O ports at fe00 [size=8]
I/O ports at fe10 [size=4]
I/O ports at fe20 [size=8]
I/O ports at fe30 [size=4]
I/O ports at fea0 [size=16]

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB SMBus Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0157
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 3
I/O ports at efe0 [size=32]

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 3002
Flags: bus master, stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 255, IRQ 11
Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
I/O ports at de00 [size=256]
Memory at fe9e0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Expansion ROM at fea00000 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [58] AGP version 3.0
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800] (Secondary)
Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 3003
Flags: bus master, stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 64
Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Memory at fe9f0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

02:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
Subsystem: Creative Labs: Unknown device 1003
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10
I/O ports at cf00 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2

02:00.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port (rev 04) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 5
Memory at fe8fa800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
Memory at fe8fc000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

02:01.0 Network controller: AVM Audiovisuelles MKTG & Computer System GmbH A1 ISDN [Fritz] (rev 02)
Subsystem: AVM Audiovisuelles MKTG & Computer System GmbH FRITZ!Card ISDN Controller
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 5
Memory at fe8fa7e0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32]
I/O ports at cee0 [size=32]

02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 1050 (rev 02)
Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0157
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 3
Memory at fe8fb000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
I/O ports at cf40 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Problem X-Server / XF86Config for ATI Radeon 9800 Reply with quote

@wedge_:

Hi, this is Axel once more,
from Fedora Core 1 with my ATI 9800 running like hell now !

First I had problems with X-Server freezing after some seconds,
but with one reply to my post in Usenet I got a hint to a common problem,
installed the ATI driver rpm package from command line,
configured with fglrxconfig, and : voilà !

I am excited and will test Fedora RedHat against my SuSE 9.0...

Maybe one day when I am bored with my three OS on my system I will give Gentoo another chance, but these two weeks experience have not been convincing...

But, Wedge, I would like to thank you for your effort and patience with me !

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