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geki
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Just some dumb thoughts, which surely have been considered already, but o well... 
If it is that difficult to migrate the database(s) to new forums software, do not migrate, do not waste your life. 
Put forums.gentoo.org into ARCHIVED MODE. And point to new discussion board. Forums are so 90s. 
Open new and fresh and blank "forums" at discuss.gentoo.org or something like that. Again do not waste your life on big fat old databases. Just freeze 'em. 
Well, just my dumb POV. I better run and hide now... 
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NeddySeagoon
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| Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:30 am Post subject: |
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geki,
Its not the database migration that's the problem. That's been done at least once. We have had a test instance of the forums running with the database in phpBB3.
From my limited understanding of the issue it is that that forums will share a host with other services and the forums doesn't like that.
That may be wide of the mark but the db migration path has been demonstrated.
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eccerr0r
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| Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Well, now that you mentioned it, agreed, fgo's current "quick search" field might well not exist. Hah.
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geki
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| NeddySeagoon wrote: | | Its not the database migration that's the problem. That's been done at least once. We have had a test instance of the forums running with the database in phpBB3. |
I thought I read at some discussion in this thread or the irc logs posted here, that there are some custom changes/hacks/whatever were quite tricky to migrate and to keep the old links through-out the internet alive was a difficult matter. I may be wrong, though. But if that is so, I would leave it as-is.
| NeddySeagoon wrote: | | From my limited understanding of the issue it is that that forums will share a host with other services and the forums doesn't like that. |
That sounds evil. I wonder what that could be...
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NeddySeagoon
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geki,
Part of the migration was dividing the feature list into three.
1. The must haves
2. The nice to haves
3. The we can fix that after go live.
It was never going to be three non intersecting sets but I think we are good for go live once the infra issues are resolved.
Well, we won't be going back, that's for sure :)
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Banana
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fedeliallalinea
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| Banana wrote: | | Right now I have the problem that the session/cooki is not "stored". Although I check the checkbox at login. Filters of new posts etc. are not working for me... bummer |
I sometimes have the problem that I don't mark the threads as read, as workaround I delete cookies of forums.gentoo.org
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Tony0945
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Banana wrote: | | Right now I have the problem that the session/cooki is not "stored". Although I check the checkbox at login. Filters of new posts etc. are not working for me... bummer |
Check the cookie settings of your browser and any add-on's. |
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eccerr0r
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Are we going to get "pastebin" storage on f.g.o with phpbb3?
Frustrating when pastebin files expire and then when we find a useful thread and then can't see if it's the same problem when the links expire...
Yes this would increase storage requirements a lot... alas, could be worth it?
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fedeliallalinea
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| eccerr0r wrote: | | Frustrating when pastebin files expire and then when we find a useful thread and then can't see if it's the same problem when the links expire... |
It might be useful for those who find the error in a build.log to post it directly in the forum.
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eccerr0r
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indeed, but there are people out there who may not be sure what the critical lines of text to copy, and may need to post the thousands of lines for others to parse through... I just got a bit frustrated with the expired links if pastebin or dpaste or the like is used.
Should ask how bad this other forum I frequent that does give pretty much unlimited upload, probably a few MB or so per post. Must end up using quite a bit of storage with all the binaries that typically get uploaded (jpg, zip files)...
Incidentally camera-taken screenshots are valid debug tools too, though as said...yow. The storage requirements! Alas the fewer "Panic! Cannot mount root device(0,0)" photo postings, the better...
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Chiitoo
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Yes, I've had in mind to allow for attachments but nothing has been decided yet.
So. Maybe possibly.
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fedeliallalinea
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| eccerr0r wrote: | | indeed, but there are people out there who may not be sure what the critical lines of text to copy, and may need to post the thousands of lines for others to parse through... I just got a bit frustrated with the expired links if pastebin or dpaste or the like is used. |
Yes, I meant that who gives help and finds the error in the pastebin should copy the relevant part in the forum.
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eccerr0r
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Ah yes, that would be best. Just hope that someone who understands or finally understand the problem reposts the relevant section before the pastebin expires!
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Etal
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| Would allowing logs as attachment really be that prohibitive in terms of space? On Bugzilla large logs are posted all the time, often automatically through QA runs. |
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fedeliallalinea
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| Etal wrote: | | Would allowing logs as attachment really be that prohibitive in terms of space? On Bugzilla large logs are posted all the time, often automatically through QA runs. |
I think there is a limit also in bugzilla, large logs often need to be compressed.
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Hu
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| The forums and Bugzilla seem to have history start around the same time. Bug #10 and Topic #10 are both from around 2002. The most current bugs are in the 830xxx range. This topic is in the 1105xxx range, so there are about 275000 more topics than there are bug reports. Since the forums are often used to triage user errors before a formal bug report is filed, and users are often asked to upload system information (such as lspci, smartctl, etc.) that developers would not request for a bug report, we would need a better than even ratio of bugs-with-attachments vs threads-with-attachments to keep the storage requirements equivalent. This could be mitigated if moderators had the ability to prune or even outright delete attachments that ultimately proved worthless. |
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toralf
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| Hu wrote: | | The most current bugs are in the 830xxx range. This topic is in the 1105xxx range, so there are about 275000 more topics than there are bug reports. |
The bug numbers aren't consecutive. For some reasons odd bug numbers weren't assigned for a longer time. Said that the # of bugs is much less than 800 K. |
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eccerr0r
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Oh, another year has passed, this thread is now 2 years old, and the phpbb3 forum upgrade isn't going to happen 
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reckor
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| Have we ever migrated? Couldn't find an answer and the bottom line in the website says 2.0.23. Thanks! |
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NeddySeagoon
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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reckor,
Not yet but watch this space.
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reckor
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| NeddySeagoon wrote: | reckor,
Not yet but watch this space. |
Definitely I will. If a noob support is needed, let me know. Cheers! |
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krinn
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| forum nukem forever |
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gorg86
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| krinn wrote: | | forum nukem forever |
I'm switching to Artix if Randy Pitchford gets involved. |
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