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Blind_Sniper
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 Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:18 pm Post subject: Free of any gtk* KDE desktop |
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Hi.
Is it possible to get rid of any gtk stuffs at KDE desktop?
I know that FF, LO, Gimp written with gtk toolkit, but I can replace them partially with native qt apps like falkon or krita or just use *.appimage for those which doesn't have qt alternatives.
So is it possible?
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Ionen
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I know you're doing this to avoid rust through librsvg, but be warned that qtwebengine (that you'd need for say.. falkon), is actually chromium-based and a worst build than rust.
Edit: Didn't check if something common may side-want gtk stuff though, someone using QT/KDE will know better. There's is some qt/kde applications that want librsvg directly I see but I doubt you'd be using those.
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fedeliallalinea
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I think is possible, you can check what packages use gtk+ with command equery d gtk+ and see if you can uninstall or disable use flag (gtk, gtk2, gtk3) from them.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Ionen wrote: | | I know you're doing this to avoid rust, but be warned that qtwebengine (that you'd need for say.. falkon), is actually chromium-based and a worst build than rust. |
Right now I use ungoogled-chromium.Appimage (standalone package), so falkon with qtwebengine could be ignored as well. BTW I have no qtwebengine installed.
@fedeliallalinea,
| Code: | * These packages depend on gtk+:
app-crypt/gcr-3.36.0 (gtk ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-3.12:3[X,introspection?])
app-crypt/pinentry-1.1.0-r3 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
app-text/ghostscript-gpl-9.52-r1 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:3)
(gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
dev-cpp/gtkmm-3.24.2 (>=x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.0:3[aqua?,wayland?,X?,abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_riscv_lp64d(-)?,abi_riscv_lp64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?])
dev-qt/qtwidgets-5.14.2 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:3)
gnome-base/librsvg-2.40.21 (tools ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-3.10.0:3)
kde-plasma/kde-gtk-config-5.18.5 (x11-libs/gtk+:2)
(x11-libs/gtk+:3)
media-video/vlc-3.0.11.1 (libnotify ? x11-libs/gtk+:3)
net-p2p/transmission-3.00-r1 (gtk ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-3.4:3)
www-client/firefox-bin-80.0 (>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.18:2)
(>=x11-libs/gtk+-3.4.0:3)
www-client/opera-70.0.3728.144 (x11-libs/gtk+:3)
www-plugins/adobe-flash-32.0.0.414 (nsplugin ? x11-libs/gtk+:2[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_riscv_lp64d(-)?,abi_riscv_lp64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?])
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-390.138-r4 (gtk3 ? x11-libs/gtk+:3)
(x11-libs/gtk+:2)
x11-libs/libnotify-0.7.9 (test ? x11-libs/gtk+:3[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_riscv_lp64d(-)?,abi_riscv_lp64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?])
x11-themes/gtk-engines-adwaita-3.28 (>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.15:2[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_riscv_lp64d(-)?,abi_riscv_lp64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?])
x11-themes/oxygen-gtk-1.4.6-r1 (x11-libs/gtk+:2[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_riscv_lp64d(-)?,abi_riscv_lp64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?]) |
I think only nvidia-drivers and qtwidgets are critical.
Anyone has such an expirience - kde without gtk?
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| Blind_Sniper wrote: | | I think only nvidia-drivers |
That can be solved with USE=-tools, gtk is only needed for nvidia-settings and it's not overly essential. I check it for diagnostic at times but I just set everything either through my xorg.conf or env vars. nvidia-smi can also be used to get temperature (libXVNCtrl.a used in some temperature / fan control apps will be missing with USE=-tools though). |
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I think you can disable gtk also for this two packages. For example I have nvidia-drivers installed without gtk enabled (you should also disable tool).
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