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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:49 am    Post subject: Kernel 5.9.x insane loads Reply with quote

System: Asrock j5005 + cheap ssd + 8GB ram, server only (pi-hole, nextcloud, dsmr-reader, wireguard, nothing special).

When upgrading to kernel 5.9.[0|1] everything goes awry, there are load spikes that cause the system to completly lock up to the point where the only option is a forced power cycle.
Even when stopping every running program that's not absolutely required (gives a nice low memory usage though :twisted: ), running something like a minecraft java server is sure to kill it withing a minute.
Reverting back to a previous kernel and everything is nice and stable again.

Anyone else experiencing issues like these?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you check any logs/dmesg for error posts?

The upgrade to 5.9.1 worked out of the box here.

One of our friends here has some performance issues, too.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmesg doesn't report anything, haveged is running, module support isn't even enabled and am using the ondemand governor, there is more then enough ram free (60% orso). The average load on any pre 5.9 kernel is about 0.8, with 5.9 the average load is about 50 with a spike every once in a while that just kills of the system.

glib and glibc are recompiled with every kernel upgrade, so I am a bit baffled by this.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the load is high, what processes are in device-wait state? On what are they waiting?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also when the load gets high what does

cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the delay, had a busy week.

Entropy is quite stable (3000~4000), but the wait goes up (~95% of the load).
What would be the next debugging step?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kernel 5.9.10 seems to have fixed it completely :D
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Kernel 5.9.x insane loads Reply with quote

gieltje wrote:
When upgrading to kernel 5.9.[0|1]
Somewhere in 4.x I started to ignore .[012] in my upgrade paths.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: Kernel 5.9.x insane loads Reply with quote

toralf wrote:
Somewhere in 4.x I started to ignore .[012] in my upgrade paths.


That's not a bad idea, but this kernel was bad till .9 or .10.....
However now it is running it's faster with my diverse workload than the previous ones.
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