How did the notification of transition from consolekit work?

whjeon

I have a question related to the notification system.
I've been using Gentoo on and off while 2+years already,
and recently I found that the default was changed to elogind from consolekit.
I'm wondering how the users were informed about this.
Were there any notifications or news items?

I mean, I'm asking this because I'm confusing now whether I should check
wiki pages of my world set from time to time forever, or this kind of transition
works almost automatically.

Thanks!

Ionen · Developer Joined: 06 Dec 2018 Posts: 2809

There was a news item back in April for the switch to elogind by default, displayed only if consolekit is installed.

It didn't straight up mention it was being removed (that decision came later after users were successfully moving away from it), but still made it clear it wasn't supported anymore -- may it be consolekit upstream, other upstream projects using it, and ultimately gentoo.

On August 2 consolekit USE was masked (forcing the move) and package last-rited with a brief message to explain, then finally removed two months later. Users would see the last-rite message when attempting to update during those two months if it's installed, and that's on top of the news item that's still there.

whjeon · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:51 am Post subject:

fungalnet · n00b Joined: 06 Jan 2018 Posts: 14 Location: Namimbia

vague and inappropriate reference to a piece of software that is being very actively developed in other parts of the unix ecosystem, it was last bumped to 1.2.2 in December 2021.

Open and free software is "shared" .... if there are those who perceive this activity as "consuming", devs as producers, then we have deeper and more severe differences amongst us than the use of elogind (live piece of IBM's systemd) and consolekit.

The gap is just widening and widening.

figueroa · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:25 am Post subject:

The take away is that it is important for Gentoo users to read the output from their emerge commands. There may be important news about transition, deprecation, and new things. Not doing so for periods exceeding 30 days could lead to nasty and difficult surprises.
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fungalnet · n00b Joined: 06 Jan 2018 Posts: 14 Location: Namimbia

does this mean that I am saying this because I just found out?

Irrelevant comment then.

When I found out about the switch and the content of the message (news - his majesty the decision maker) about those who share a piece of software being branded "consumers", just what IBM would have wanted us to be, are unrelated. This message was intended to point out the ideological/philosophical chasm between US and THEM!

I'd rather use MSwin-7 than use elogind. Whether it has become a pain or next to impossible to use Gentoo for work, not hobby, without using the IBM garbage code is besides the philosophical separation.

Consumers digest a market product such as a trojan horse, called elogind, and the infrastructure necessary for it to be enacted.
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asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 9182

You really didn't realise 'consumers' in that context were the packages depending on consolekit...?

Fitzcarraldo · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: consumers