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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:31 pm    Post subject: elogind vs suid+pm-utils, which one installs more packages ? Reply with quote

xorg-server by default installs elogind.

which one of the following two scenarios installs more packages and needs more compilation time ?:

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(1) elogind
(2) suid+pm-utils


At first I thought I do not need elogind , then I realized that it provides suspend/hibernate functionality and then thought maybe if it installs less packages and compilation time is less than or equal to suid+pm-utils...why not go with elogind ?

What do you think ? which scenario is better, (1) or (2)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3) seatd

And xorg shouldn't pull in elogind... Some DM (lighten,gdm,kdm) might but those are not xorg
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

x11-base/xorg-server[elogind] will activate the dependency block:
Code:
    elogind? (
        sys-apps/dbus
        sys-auth/elogind[pam]
        sys-auth/pambase[elogind]
    )
You do not need elogind for suspend/hibernate to work. I have systems that had working suspend and hibernate for years before elogind even existed. You may need elogind or an equivalent to allow unprivileged suspend/hibernate though. I start my power management via the machine's power switch triggering an ACPI event (which is received by a root-privileged process) or by running a command in a root shell.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hu wrote:
[color=blue]...You do not need elogind for suspend/hibernate to work. I have systems that had working suspend and hibernate for years before elogind even existed. You may need elogind or an equivalent to allow unprivileged suspend/hibernate though. I start my power management via the machine's power switch triggering an ACPI event (which is received by a root-privileged process) or by running a command in a root shell.


Absolutely the way to go. I don't need elogind for anything. I usually use my custom fluxbox desktop environment but I have full plasma-meta installed without systemd or elogind or policykit. It runs fast and reliable. (Of course I have to keep an edited ebuild for plasma-meta, and a couple other things, in my own overlay where I tear the heart out of the evil modern-linux beast and make it simple again).
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sitquietly wrote:
Absolutely the way to go. I don't need elogind for anything. I usually use my custom fluxbox desktop environment but I have full plasma-meta installed without systemd or elogind or policykit. It runs fast and reliable. (Of course I have to keep an edited ebuild for plasma-meta, and a couple other things, in my own overlay where I tear the heart out of the evil modern-linux beast and make it simple again).


If you want simplicity, I recommend sway.
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