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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:16 pm    Post subject: arm64 neon cpu flag status Reply with quote

It is been a year since
Code:
# Aaron Bauman <bman@gentoo.org> (2019-12-27)
# Mask cpu_flags_arm_neon for all of arm64
# A neon64 USE is being discussed
cpu_flags_arm_neon


Especially on tls I get lower output on arm64 compared to 32 bits arm.
Is there any progress or workaround ?

Why neon was disabled in first place ? Raspberry Pi 4 support neon instructions. Does SIMD include NEON on arm64 ?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

costel78,

Code:
cpu_flags_arm_neon
affects assembly code inserts that some packages provide.
It does not affect the instruction stream emitted by gcc.

cpu_flags_arm_neon is used by
Code:
$ equery h cpu_flags_arm_neon
 * Searching for USE flag cpu_flags_arm_neon ...
[IP-] [  ] dev-libs/nettle-3.7:0/8-6
[IP-] [  ] mail-client/thunderbird-78.6.0:0/78
[IP-] [  ] media-libs/graphene-1.10.2:0
[IP-] [  ] media-libs/libaom-2.0.0:0/2
[IP-] [  ] media-libs/libpng-1.6.37-r2:0/16
[IP-] [  ] media-libs/libwebp-1.1.0:0/7
[IP-] [  ] media-libs/openh264-2.1.1:0/6
[IP-] [  ] media-libs/opus-1.3.1-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] media-libs/x265-3.4:0/192
[IP-] [  ] media-video/ffmpeg-4.3.1:0/56.58.58
[IP-] [  ] media-video/vlc-3.0.12.1-r100:0/5-9
[IP-] [  ] www-client/firefox-84.0.2:0/84
[IP-] [  ] x11-libs/pixman-0.40.0:0

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I see. I have to better document myself.
Do you know why the flag have been disabled ?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

costel78,

neon is a 32 bit instruct set as far as I know.

On arm64, the 32 bit instruction set is optional. The Pi4 and 4 have it, the Cavium Thunder does not.
Its not possible to mix 32 bit and 64 bit instructions on arm64.
There is no multilib on on 64 either, so running 32 bit programs on arm64 is not possible, even if the silicon has 32 bit support.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was what I was reading. But the announce contain "# A neon64 USE is being discussed" which is misleading, it seems.
Everything is clear now.

Thank you very much for explanations!
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