[wayland] wayfire and other compositors

Anon-E-moose · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:44 pm Post subject:

I know that xfce has been working on making it work under wayland natively. But don't haven't checked on resource usage.

On the other hand, I've been playing (lightly and mostly in the config stage right now) with hyprland, and I'm pretty impressed.
If I can get it tuned properly, I may switch over to it as my primary desktop.
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Zucca · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:09 pm Post subject:

Is hyprland like fluxbox/openbox on wayland?
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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:23 pm Post subject:

CooSee · Veteran Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 1468 Location: Earth

here's another baby https://github.com/WillPower3309/swayfx

i'll wait until hyprland can just adapt already configured sway/waybar .config without anykind of users input :wink:

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Zucca · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:34 pm Post subject:

Well. I do tile windows on wayfire already. :P
I guess I could try out hyprland some day.

However I like the idea of newm: infinite desk size. I guess it's not that fast to use than virtual desktops, but it's something completely new to me.

I'll configure my sfwbar to my liking, then I can start the compositor hopping. :D
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Zucca · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:28 pm Post subject:

Well...
I've just recalled some of my, limited, css skills. Like many other bars, sfwbar styling is done via css.
nm-applet didn't seem to offer a tray icon anymore (maybe it's a some new tray protocol for gnome and friends). So I compiled nm-tray. Qt equivalent. Surprisingly it didn't pull much crud with it - only one kde related package. It works now, but I get "no-icon" -icon on the tray. And running it via terminal:

keet · Guru Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 571

I also tile windows on wayfire; it's easy to assign shortcuts for making them take up a quarter or half of the screen. I try tiling window managers occasionally, but generally find that I can replicate their functionality with stacking ones without the annoyance of needing to figure out to handle things that I don't want to tile, like conky.

Zucca · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:48 pm Post subject:

@keet, there's also simple tiling plugin for wayfire. I tend to use it on bigger displays.
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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:00 pm Post subject:

As I said earlier, I've always used a stacking wm/compositor in the past, both in wayland and X.

I had already walked away wayfire, the main reason they weren't keeping up with wlroots changes closely enough (for me).
I went to labwc, another stacking compositor, which was following wlroots more closely, and somewhat resembled openbox,
which was what I used most in X. They've also added some simple tiling. And as a general rule I do like labwc.

But I decided to try hyprland, and I do like it, especially since I've figured out how to have floating windows,
as well as window placement, etc, for my customizations.

As far as animations, in wayfire I turned them mostly off (they're only cute for a while, to me)
labwc doesn't do animations
hyprland does some animations, window momement, etc, but not near as many options as wayfire.
Overall hyprland seems to be snappier than either of my previous choices, and like sway, if you have multiple monitors
you can have one or more workspaces appear on your 2nd, 3rd, etc monitor.

At the end of the day, we pick what suits our needs and wants. *laugh*
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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:03 pm Post subject:

hyprland rice coming along nicely

https://freeimage.host/i/HEX3gQs
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CooSee · Veteran Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 1468 Location: Earth

there are so much like this - which to choose

https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/10y1z3c/hyprland_ended_up_ricing_literally_everything/

https://github.com/PROxZIMA/.dotfiles

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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:28 pm Post subject:

Indeed, much of my inspiration has come from reddit *nods*

But I like to take bits and pieces and roll my own
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Zucca · Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:13 pm Post subject:

I have too much to test. :E

hyprland
newm
clay

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bitter · n00b Joined: 26 Dec 2003 Posts: 24

I love Hyprland! It's been my daily driver for months, since I began using wayland the majority of the time.

Zucca · Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:56 pm Post subject:

I guess people following this thread will know few wallpaper setters for wayland (preferably using wlroots)?

I recently installed a almost fresh Gentoo install on my laptop (I had a silly 'rm -fr' accident) and I'm looking for parts for my gui session.
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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:29 pm Post subject:

I use swaybg with a perl wrapper script to randomize and time the wp

Zucca · Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:49 pm Post subject:

As, yes swaybg. That'll fit.
... But I went a little overkill and chose gui-apps/swww. I (roughly) measured it's consumption with powertop and it isn't that bad when using gif as wallpaper (Yes, that's a thing). If choose static image, then it doesn't even show up on powertop.

There's also wbg for those who want _really_ minimal wallpaper setter for wlroots based compositors.

Then to... gtk (and qt) themes... lxappearance segfaults...
Why's theming so complicated nowdays..? :(
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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 2:21 pm Post subject:

I started out using wbg, then modified it to understand random/time for wallpaper, then just moved over to swaybg as it has a few features I like. I dislike animations (as a general rule) at least after just a few minutes of any animation series. *lol*

I would be surprised if lxappearance worked since it's an X app, not sure how well it handles wayland or even xwayland.
xfce4 on the other hand is moving towards offering a wayland experience with their suite, but not sure how far all the components are in that.

Theming, I just manually adjust .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini and gtk env vars, for qt use QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME
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spica · Guru Joined: 04 Jun 2021 Posts: 330

Just wanted to share my scripts for setting random wallpaper on each login.
I try to hide exact implementation under a script with some common name.
Later I will be able to replace swaybg with something different in a single place.

~/bin/wallpaper.sh

Zucca · Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:32 pm Post subject:

I plan to change the wallpaper based if my laptop if charging, and/or battery percentage.
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spica · Guru Joined: 04 Jun 2021 Posts: 330

Wayfire 0.8.0 https://wayfire.org/2023/10/07/Wayfire-0-8.html